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    Quote Originally Posted by ERNO View Post
    Ginsue, I think you still need your training wheels.
    As to being called a troll: I feel insulted. I bought my first computer, last July. I've tried to get on AR-15.COM but still computer illiterate, cause I still don't know how to get G- mail code. I posted my first ever thread on the web, on this website last July. And I'm suprised by the backlash that I am getting, but will try to take in stride; and I am thankful that I have'nt been barred from this Website, because Talk show host's like Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin won't even let me get on the air.
    If babies could make any noise before they emerge from the womb I doubt your mother would have let you out, let alone let you make a phone call to Rush or Mark and waste their time with your blasphemous bullshit.
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    If anyone has the notion that the .gov can do a better job and controlling YOUR money, you are seriously mistaken. I like to think that America is still the land of the free and I believe that entails choosing what I do with my money and living with the outcomes of those choices.

    I am all for having some .gov, but ours is working its way to being out of control. the spending habits should be seen as enough evidence to take action and not give them any more. Start dismantling them internally and taking down sections piece by piece until the size is reduced to acceptable levels, then put barriers in place that would restrict the size only to necessary levels for future growth of our country as needed.

    I have been pondering WTF our politicians are thinking in the first place, better yet why there are enough people like ERNO out there in the world that aren't ripping each and every single one of them a new asshole for even considering not extending tax cuts. I am still pissed they aren't permanent. Obama was right...this country needs some serious change, just not the change he was talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post

    I am geared up and prepared to give a show. when it comes to the .gov stealing my money I will let loose...and I have about 2 hours to sit around before my next flight and unleash.
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    I'm safe,I don't have any money for anybody to steal
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    Here's some interesting reading

    https://twitter.com/repronpaul/status/10716266021003264

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/r...hat-wikileaks/

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-d...-1225967241332

    http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...034284,00.html

    I saw on BBC World News America an interview with a Russian asking about the releases saying Russia is rife with corruption bordering on being a Mafia state, and if that was insulting to the Russian public. The reporter scoffed and said that in Russia, this is not news. Their reaction was one of "Well no shit, maybe that explains the bribe I had to pay this morning"

    The fact that our government made half ass attempts to pressure Amazon, EveryDNS, Paypal, Mastercard/VISA, and ISP's in other nations to take down http://www.wikileaks.org shows so much ignorance for the internet that it's frankly insulting. In classic bureaucratic fashion they have managed to inflict more damage on themselves while responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    I'm safe,I don't have any money for anybody to steal

    lol, +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    So ERNO, I think you're wrong and either mis-informed, willfully ignorant, or just a troll looking to stir up the poop.
    A: D - All of the above
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERNO View Post
    The home grown terrorist, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky who is tax blackmailing the United States of America to death by causing almost $4 trillion in lost revenue just over the next decade; by extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich, in exchange for extending unemployment benefits.
    There's no nice way to say it. You're just full of shit, dude.

    Here we have a typical, whiny-ass leftist complaining that republicans are causing all sorts of economic harm when it's democrat douchebags (is that redundant?) that have been, and still are, in charge of the purse strings. I'm as right-wing as they come and even I think republicans have been just as irresponsible in the management of our economy as democrats.

    So does that make the democrats and Obama home-grown terrorists, too? After all...they're the party in charge and they'll be the ones signing off on the compromise.

    You can't have it both ways, ERNO.

    Did you know that over 80% of the population thinks that tax rates should remain where they are rather than be increased? Even for the top earners (over $250K) it's practically a 50/50 split. That's gotta include a bunch of people of your socialist ilk in the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    If anyone has the notion that the .gov can do a better job and controlling YOUR money, you are seriously mistaken. I like to think that America is still the land of the free and I believe that entails choosing what I do with my money and living with the outcomes of those choices.
    We don't have a government for the purpose of controlling our money. We have government for a myriad of purposes, for example, ensuring that there is a functional monetary system to start with. Many of these purposes are flawed, as again for example, a gold-backed standard could be used as currency. The core purpose of government (IMHO) is to enforce the silver rule, "Don't hurt others" (* without their consent). All of us are armed and could protect ourselves from many reasonable threats, but it sure is nice to not have to do so constantly.

    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I am all for having some .gov, but ours is working its way to being out of control. the spending habits should be seen as enough evidence to take action and not give them any more. Start dismantling them internally and taking down sections piece by piece until the size is reduced to acceptable levels, then put barriers in place that would restrict the size only to necessary levels for future growth of our country as needed.
    Yes, spending is out of control. Affecting that by reducing the supply of funds as the only tool seems like trying to downsize a building with a wrecking ball. A more appropriate method would be to actually repeal, adjust, or replace a great many laws that direct where the money goes. Before all the other distractions in the news, the two Senators who proposed massive cuts across the government were getting traction. You know it's a good compromise when both the GOP and Dems hate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I have been pondering WTF our politicians are thinking in the first place, better yet why there are enough people like ERNO out there in the world that aren't ripping each and every single one of them a new asshole for even considering not extending tax cuts. I am still pissed they aren't permanent. Obama was right...this country needs some serious change, just not the change he was talking about.
    They're thinking that because there are people in the US who are analytical and realize that cutting taxes in the face of such staggering debt is insane. People who have studied the "trickle down" economics of the 80's and can prove that it doesn't work. And finally, people who understand that you cannot live under a ballooning debt and still have your currency be worth anything.

    You cannot hang this mill stone around the neck of the Democrats alone, either. Even Clinton, the only one to actually change the delta the right way, left office with more debt than he entered with.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

    Debt is debt, and it works the same way. The sooner you start paying it off, the sooner it's paid off. I would rather see taxes rise for everyone than be extended. I want to see the budget slashed by 30% or more, too. I'm not going to get either of my wishes, am I?

    As for the whole "going Galt" and dis-incentive to work, you'd be entirely correct if the percentages were actually substantial, thankfully they aren't.

    I don't want to pay more taxes. I just want to be debt free more. We are throwing money away on the national debt, and handing it to China and Saudi Arabia by the train load. We are killing the chances of our children and grandchildren to live in a first world country. 30 years of meteoric rise in the national debt has allowed the baby boomers to lead a wonderful life, financed on the backs of their children and grand children. The "greatest" generation was followed by the "greediest" generation.

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