you guys see this shooting? i guess only the shooter was killed

[68Charger]

Why a V? Why?

it's from V for Vendetta, he was trying to re-play the ending sequence, possibly... deranged individual.

[DeusExMachina]

He ended up shooting himself, so I don't think anything could have been done.

Edit: I know what its from, it just doesn't make any sense.

[68Charger]

He ended up shooting himself, so I don't think anything could have been done.

Edit: I know what its from, it just doesn't make any sense.

it doesn't make sense because you're not in the same mental state...

Not sure it would have wound up any different with any option, it's just sad that he died because he let evil take him over- that's my view...

[Geardo]

This looked like SBC, pure and simple... a case were Less-than-lethal alternatives would be a better outcome- take him out with a Taser or the like- and get him some help.

I totally agree that less than lethal is a viable option in this situation but what do you think the correct course of action would be for a civilian CC'ing in this room? What would you guys do? Shout Show Shove Shoot Shoot?

[68Charger]

I totally agree that less than lethal is a viable option in this situation but what do you think the correct course of action would be for a civilian CC'ing in this room? What would you guys do? Shout Show Shove Shoot Shoot?

Gun-free zone, AFAIK... which means civilians wouldn't be legally CC'ing in that room...

That aside, the best outcome would have been disarming the agressor... I think someone who is not armed would have had the best chance- anyone armed would have been perceived by him as the 'cop' that would enable his suicide.

That would require skills and bravery beyond the average person to perform.

[Geardo]

Whoops I honestly didn't even think about the gun-free zone, maybe its time for me to get some sleep. But yeah that would require some balls and some sweet krav maga.

[Irving]

What is the V you guys are talking about?

By the way, all joking aside, I found that video terrifying. I need to get back to competitions asap. I've missed at closer than that range at my very first match. I figured I was so close that I could just point and shoot. I was wrong.

[Geardo]

The red "V" on the wall. The video didn't really show it happening but I believe the gunman painted it prior to pulling the gun.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Gun Free Zone at its finest!

[Jer]

I watched the video and this is yet another example of why I carry EVERYWHERE. I jump through whatever hoops that are available to me to do so legally but that doesn't mean if there's a 'no gun zone' I don't carry. I don't condone it but at the same time I'll be damned if I'm going to be reduced to begging for my life to a deranged person who is going to kill himself anyway. He doesn't care about the repercussions of his actions so who's to say he wouldn't shoot you and everyone else there? Just think of the wives, mothers and kids of those men on that board had the guy come in with the intention and ability to kill. They'll all go home because of one thing... luck. I value my life WAY to much to gamble with it and trust it to chance. If I go out, I'm going out with a fight.