Jesus is a Liberal Democrat

[ghettodub]

Made me laugh, especially the part about a ham

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...beral-democrat

[StagLefty]

Stewart and Colbert are my end of the day guys-brain wash all the crap away that I've heard all day

[cstone]

Made me laugh, especially the part about a ham

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...beral-democrat

Colbert's spin on the Gospel. His theological background is obviously beyond question.

I think I will take my spiritual guidance from something other than talking heads on TV, O'Reilly included.

As an aside, I missed the part where Jesus advocated Rome taxing money from the rich and giving it to the poor.

[ghettodub]

I think I will take my spiritual guidance from something other than talking heads on TV, O'Reilly included.

As you should! Unfortunately though, that is how many people do...

[Byte Stryke]

Colbert's spin on the Gospel. His theological background is obviously beyond question.

I think I will take my spiritual guidance from something other than talking heads on TV, O'Reilly included.

As an aside, I missed the part where Jesus advocated Rome taxing money from the rich and giving it to the poor.

Me thinks someone isn't grasping the sarcasm that is Colbert

[Inconel710]

The problem is there are too many useful idiots out there that will (and do!) use Colbert's words/thought processes to live their lives. Colbert's sarcastic analysis will be used to justify their desire to remain atheist/agnostic, or worse, get involved in a church that preaches "social justice".

[ghettodub]

The problem is there are too many useful idiots out there that will (and do!) use Colbert's words/thought processes to live their lives. Colbert's sarcastic analysis will be used to justify their desire to remain atheist/agnostic, or worse, get involved in a church that preaches "social justice".

The same could be said for followers of Pat Robertson and others as well though... And honestly, who cares if someone else is agnostic or atheist (this is an honest question: how does if effect you?)? The most important thing about spirituality and faith is your own personal belief and practice, no matter who or what (or lack of) you worship. If someone is agnostic, shouldn't matter to anyone but themselves. If you don't like their messages or beliefs, don't listen. The important thing should what you believe.

I think people that "claim" to act in the good name of the lord, while doing, saying and preaching horrible shit, are far more destructive to our society, because I think part of what makes us great is the ability to make our own decisions and be different, and it's not my right to judge or damn others based on what they believe or don't believe. Just my .02, and not bashing anyone else's beliefs, so

And yes, I fully expected posting this to create this type of banter

EDIT: I just realized my post could potentially open a whole new can of worms, hehe

[BigBear]

And honestly, who cares if someone else is agnostic or atheist (this is an honest question: how does if effect you?)? The most important thing about spirituality and faith is your own personal belief and practice, no matter who or what (or lack of) you worship. ...

I love these types of discussions... The only thing I can come up with is the "way of life".

I'll try to explain succintly and if I fail, so be it: Someone who believes in "something" may understand their religious beliefs lead to a duty to help someone stuck on the side of the road. Think the Good Samaritan story in the Bible. Someone who does not believe in "something" but lives for themselves or whatever may see that person and just walk on by and the guy dies. The guy could've been Lincoln, Einstien, Bach, etc but the world will never have the pleasure of knowing him because the non-belief guy walked on by.

Now, that being said, that whole "synopsis" is very generalized. I know some GREAT people who have no belief system and some HORRIBLE people who believe they are the World's Best Christian and the Pope is a joke.

But just food for thought in getting that discussion started.

[Inconel710]

The same could be said for followers of Pat Robertson and others as well though... And honestly, who cares if someone else is agnostic or atheist (this is an honest question: how does if effect you?)? The most important thing about spirituality and faith is your own personal belief and practice, no matter who or what (or lack of) you worship. If someone is agnostic, shouldn't matter to anyone but themselves. If you don't like their messages or beliefs, don't listen.

I think people that "claim" to act in the good name of the lord, while doing, saying and preaching horrible shit, are far more destructive to our society, because I think part of what makes us great is the ability to make our own decisions and be different, and it's not my right to judge or damn others based on what they believe or don't believe. Just my .02, and not bashing anyone else's beliefs, so

And yes, I fully expected posting this to create this type of banter

No problems here! There's a reason we have free will. My only point was that non-thinking people see something like Colbert's piece and use it to justify their own intellectually lazy philosophy of life. I was agnostic myself for a while, until my own experiences convinced me otherwise. I just have little tolerence for anyone who has blind faith is their religious choice -even atheists are taking it on faith that there is no God.

While you have a point about the misuse of religion by some (see Westboro Baptist Church for a recent example), you can not condemn all religion on that basis. American religious charities put more time, effort and money into helping the poor of this world than any government. By your logic we could also condemn atheism (see History of Twentieth Century Russia and China). The real truth is evil people will do evil things through any means available, religious or irreligious.

My personal beliefs are that humans need an unchanging external reference for moral behavior, and that moral behavior is needed to live a good life. Without an unchanging reference that exists no matter how you feel today, we tend to act like a ship without a rudder - heading off in random directions, going wherever our whim takes us. Someone who is not able to, or practiced at, objectively looking at their own behavior and comparing it to a set of principles inevitably screws up their life (willfully or unwillfully). They do things that "seemed like a good idea at the time" without considering the outcomes of their decisions and comparing them to their principles. Then they act surprised when things go wrong.

The debate that will go on forever is exactly what constitutes moral behavior! And I'm not getting involved in that one!

[cstone]

Me thinks someone isn't grasping the sarcasm that is Colbert

I get Colbert's sarcasm, and I often find him amusing. I also understand that most sarcasm is based on using things out of context.

I admit that I have a sore spot for anyone who attempts to use the power of government to drive their personal agenda. Since that is the nature of politics, you could imagine what I think about all politicians. I don't trust them. Whether it is O'Reilly, Colbert, Stewart, Limbaugh, or Letterman, I really don't think any of them have much to say to me personally about how it is best for me to live my life.