POF vs. Larue vs. ACR (Advice needed)

[b3dd]

I grew up hunting, but currently I don't hunt. Used mostly shotguns for hunting. Shoot clay targets semi-regularly (again shotguns). Served 5 years as a Marine, but was Avionics so I only received basic training with the M16. I currently own a Beretta PX4 .40 S&W (home defense) and 2 shotguns. I have recently developed an interest in getting an AR. I have a buddy who has several, but he lives a good ways away so testing his out isn't an option. I had originally thought to get a 7.62/.308 win AR in case I ever did decide to go hunting with it; but have settled on the 5.56/.223 rem because it seems to be a much more universal/versatile system. Also prefer 16" for versatility, and max range I'm looking to cover is 300 yards. I am looking for versatility more than anything. In the event of SHTF/TEOTWAWKI I'd like to have a rifle that is suitable/adaptable to most scenarios, other than that it will just be a range toy. All research has been online, and none of it is fielded. So far I like the three firearms in the title, but I am looking for some advice that will help me decide. Sorry for the long post, just thought background info may assist any who were willing to advise. Thanks in advance

[The Rat]

Skip the POF. Larue is good. No hands on experience with the ACR so I can't comment there.

If you want to build yourself a good AR on a budget, pick up an upper from BCM and build from there. One of their standard 16" midlength uppers w/ BCG + a set of midlength MOE handguards would only be around $650 or so, for an upper on par in quality terms with Colt.

Or if you want free-float handguards with rails, they have basically every rail imaginable to buy on completed uppers.

Or you could just buy the AR I'm selling here.

[b3dd]

My buddy said the same about building it, but he advised RRA. I figure anybody who manafactures and builds these things professionally has got to be able to do a better job at selecting balanced components and putting them together than I can. Thanks though for the +1 on Larue.

[SA Friday]

Any 16" mid length gas system upper that uses a direct impingement system from w reputable company will work. Piston operated work, but not as popular or been around as long as the direct impingement, so parts are less available for them and a little more expensive. DPMS, Bushmaster, RRA, Colt, Larue, BCM, all good stuff. Higher end are JP and Sun Devil. It depends on how much you want to spend, but all of the list above work and get the job done. I would recommend them all, but JP is the best of them. Just make sure you go mid length on the gas system. It's easier to shoot and a he'll of a lot easier on the brass.

[hurley842002]

Pretty much any of the above suggestions would be good choices for what you sound like your planning on using it for. However, since I got my BCM I have a really hard time recommending anything else. I've shot everything from Bushmasters to many Colts, and for the money, IMO nothing compares to a BCM. I hate to throw the term Mil Spec around, but if that is something you are hung up on, you are going to get a 100% Mil Spec rifle when you buy a BCM, no corners cut.

I've only personally owned 2 AR's, one being a Complete Bushmaster, and my current AR being a BCM upper on the previous Bushmaster lower. The BCM fit and finish is hands down over and above that of the Bushmaster. I slapped a Colt carry handle on it, and had it zeroed within a dozen rounds, that wasn't the case with my Bushmaster, even being a complete from the factory rifle, it gave me a few issues (I believe it was a misaligned front sight).

Another thing to consider is what type of ammo are you wanting to shoot out of it? I rushed out and bought a 1:9 twist Bushmaster, and later on after getting into reloading realized I wanted to run 75 and 77 grain ammo through it, and would be better served with a 1:7 twist rifle. That was the main reason for the switch from the Bushmaster to the BCM, all the Mil Spec stuff was just a small bonus. Once I got the front sight issue fixed, I NEVER had any issues with the Bushmaster, it fired every time.

My BCM is a Carbine length, however like SAFriday said, I would seriously look into a mid length, that will likely be one of my next purchases. You are doing the right thing by asking around and doing your research, it will save you a lot of money down the road. Another site I may suggest is www.m4carbine.net It's a good resource for info on AR's. Most of the folks on that site however are High Speed low drag (or at least act like it), and form their opinions nearly 100% in conjunction with "the Chart", so take it with a grain of salt. Good luck in your search, i'm sure any of the reputable brands will serve you well, once you figure out exactly what you want.

[SA Friday]

Hurley, BCMs do rock. The are solid, but you really need to get the opportunity to shoot a JP, Sun Devil, or Firebird. They are simply a whole new level of AR.