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    Is the 3 1/4" actual cutting edge length or blade length from tip to handle ?
    The reason I ask is because this can make the difference with most of my knives between legal or illegal. ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    Is the 3 1/4" actual cutting edge length or blade length from tip to handle ?
    The reason I ask is because this can make the difference with most of my knives between legal or illegal. ??

    ...any knife having a blade greater than three and one-half (3½) inches in length...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    Is the 3 1/4" actual cutting edge length or blade length from tip to handle ?
    The reason I ask is because this can make the difference with most of my knives between legal or illegal. ??
    I believe the common interpretation is the portion from the handle/guard to the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I believe the common interpretation is the portion from the handle/guard to the tip.
    Thanks TFOGGER- I was looking for something beside a vague quote
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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    Thanks TFOGGER- I was looking for something beside a vague quote
    It wasn't a vague quote, it was the definition in statute. No more, no less. That is the definition that LEO's will use.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Thread now has me wondering about my knife that I carry daily. It only has a three inch blade, but is spring loaded. Looks like a normal folder with a thumb button on the blade. Barely touch it and it swings open fully every time. Been a great easy to open knife. Even have cleaned a deer with it. Is it now considered too dangerous for me to possess or carry?
    BTW its a Ken Onion Kershaw 1560

    (Having to worry about carrying a pocket knife...GMAFB)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapLock View Post
    Thread now has me wondering about my knife that I carry daily. It only has a three inch blade, but is spring loaded. Looks like a normal folder with a thumb button on the blade. Barely touch it and it swings open fully every time. Been a great easy to open knife. Even have cleaned a deer with it. Is it now considered too dangerous for me to possess or carry?
    BTW its a Ken Onion Kershaw 1560

    (Having to worry about carrying a pocket knife...GMAFB)

    I viewed a video of your knife online and while it appears to be pretty close to what could be considered a switchblade, I would say it isn't according to the strict interpretation of the definition. Again, I wouldn't hassle anyone that had a knife such as yours unless the knife was being used in a manner that violated other laws. That is just me and I know a number of old cops like me that feel the same way about the issue.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Default Kershaw is dodgy in a certain sense

    I'm going to do this one time, just because people want to pick apart every little thing to somehow make themselves seem superior:

    I don't know you 1guy67, but you do have issues with me (or rather, with what I write), so let's draw issue with your definition of "municiple".

    It's right in the friggin dictionary, to quote:

    1: of or relating to the internal affairs of a major political unit (as a nation)
    2 a : of, relating to, or characteristic of a municipality
    b : having local self-government
    3: restricted to one locality


    The meaning of "municipal" has NOTHING to do with whether or not some political subdivision is a city or a county.


    The actual denver law says "mechanical contrivance" all too broad.

    1guy67. You would ask that I put out all the information? I provided the links, wasn't that enough?

    And municipal code is NOT statutorily defined as having to do with a city or township. ANY statutory political subdivision of the State can have it's own code, commonly referred to as municipal code.

    La Plata county, has a municipal code, for instance.

    Your definition is insufficiently thorough as "Home Rule" can apply to ANY municipality that declares itself to be "self governing". It is a description of a municipality that it claims the right to "Home Rule", in doing so it must conform to CRS statutes applying to any municipality that says it has "home rule" Thus any municipality may be home rule, but it's by choice. Denver is a statutory city, but also is "home rule". Home rule is not a TYPE of city or town, it is what a city or town defines itself as.

    If you're going to pick apart a couple of words, you should look to your own posts.

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    That's the Kershaw Whirlwind. It is a spring-assisted knife, not a switchblade. It doesn't have a button or other device on the handle to trigger opening the blade, and it requires a nudge from a finger to get the blade moving before the spring opens it the rest of the way. It's legal. The federal Switchblade Knife Act was amended to exclude spring-assisted knives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    Is the 3 1/4" actual cutting edge length or blade length from tip to handle ?
    The reason I ask is because this can make the difference with most of my knives between legal or illegal. ??
    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    ...any knife having a blade greater than three and one-half (3½) inches in length...
    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I believe the common interpretation is the portion from the handle/guard to the tip.
    I was always under the impression it was the actual cutting edge. I knew about the general measurement with the palm of one's hand, but that will definitely change depending the size of one's mitts. I measured mine just to check. Cutting edge is 3 1/4", and the entire length of the blade from tip to handle is 3 1/2" so I'm set with mine. Thanks for the clarification.

    I have a friend who carries a couple CRKT M16-SF14 which is bigger than mine, and ended up doing an evening in de-tox, and was given his knives back. The actual cutting edge on his knives is 3 1/2" so I guess that's what the LEOs went with in his case. I think like OneGuy said, it depends on what the circumstances are. If the knives were being used in an illegal manner, then you're running into other problems.

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