Colorado CCW Training Warning

[DeusExMachina]

12th post and already advertising?

[rcbc1954]

I Teach Hunter Ed Classes With A Master Instructor Who Is Also A Ccw Instructor, He Is Certified By The "NRA" As A Ccw Instructor, So If Your Instructor Is "NRA" Certified, I Don't Think You Will Have A Problem

[Great-Kazoo]

i charge X per class. some shooters, both new and experienced do not feel it is an issue. Others want their class right now and do not feel they should have to pay anything as they were 5th inft, SOF, flew with chaing kai shek etc. stormed the Bastille. you get my point. if they choose to attend one of my classes so much the better, I do let them know for $60.00 a sat-sunday class is held along the front range and sure they have room for another student,
YMMV.

[SouthPaw]

My dad and I both took Jims class (on separate weekends) and we both truly felt like we got our monies worth. I would recommend anyone considering taking the class for CCW to give Jim a call. Well worth it.

[Wulf202]

I'm sure I'll have people pile on me, but its the TRUTH.

+1 Seriously well said

[9milliman]

Hello My fellow shooting enthusiasts. I am proud to say I have recently purchased a Beretta 9 millimeter and a nice 38 Spcl. for the woman. I do beleive in open carry. I have been carrying since I got it. I have had no trouble from either FTC Police or Loveland Police as well. In fact after a business meeting ( I did get flack for carrying in a professional environment, I will get back to this later) the group I was with went to a very busy restaurant in Loveland. As I entered the building Loveland's finest had finished parking in the front. They had full view of my piece. Once I entered the establishment and after much time had progressed, I passed the Policeman on my way to the restroom, with my gun in plain sight, I engaged the policeman as I said how are you. He politely smiled back and replied doing well sir, How are you?. As we passed AT The same time in a tight squeeze mind you, I replied great sir, have a safe night. I heard nothing of it and it was very polite, no ID check, no questions about why I have a gun.

I had just finished the movie in FTC at Carmike Cinemas on Timberline. Through the whole movie I had my open carry 9 millimeter on me. After the movie was over I realized a sign that I had not seen previously. At the bottom of the plaque I saw "Firearms Prohibited". Now there was no engagement on this issue or Police Contact.

I am filing my CCW paperwork this week. I still feel I will carry openly. I am investing in few more classes regarding firearms and self defense, Legalities as well as shooting a perpetrator, I feel knowledge is power. I NEVER would want to kill another human. HOWEVER it is an obligation of carry to do the right thing, whether it be rush the gunman or put him down....PERMANENTLY.
I welcome different viewpoints. I am a citizen that THINKS.

Please leave comments......

[Sticks]

Hello My fellow shooting enthusiasts. I am proud to say I have recently purchased a Beretta 9 millimeter and a nice 38 Spcl. for the woman. I do beleive in open carry. I have been carrying since I got it. I have had no trouble from either FTC Police or Loveland Police as well. In fact after a business meeting ( I did get flack for carrying in a professional environment, I will get back to this later) the group I was with went to a very busy restaurant in Loveland. As I entered the building Loveland's finest had finished parking in the front. They had full view of my piece. Once I entered the establishment and after much time had progressed, I passed the Policeman on my way to the restroom, with my gun in plain sight, I engaged the policeman as I said how are you. He politely smiled back and replied doing well sir, How are you?. As we passed AT The same time in a tight squeeze mind you, I replied great sir, have a safe night. I heard nothing of it and it was very polite, no ID check, no questions about why I have a gun.

I had just finished the movie in FTC at Carmike Cinemas on Timberline. Through the whole movie I had my open carry 9 millimeter on me. After the movie was over I realized a sign that I had not seen previously. At the bottom of the plaque I saw "Firearms Prohibited". Now there was no engagement on this issue or Police Contact.

I am filing my CCW paperwork this week. I still feel I will carry openly. I am investing in few more classes regarding firearms and self defense, Legalities as well as shooting a perpetrator, I feel knowledge is power. I NEVER would want to kill another human. HOWEVER it is an obligation of carry to do the right thing, whether it be rush the gunman or put him down....PERMANENTLY.
I welcome different viewpoints. I am a citizen that THINKS.

Please leave comments......

Did you pick the .38 for your SO or did she?

Glad to hear the Ft Collins/Loveland area seems to be OC friendly. Don't try it in the Denver area. Legal, but a guaranteed MWAG LEO response (and if you are in the City/County of Denver proper, you will be charged).

Bold and underlined...Loose that mindset now. One carries a firearm for DEFENSIVE reasons, and you shoot to STOP the threat, nothing more. There are fatal side effects to stopping the threat that occasionally happens, but that is not the intention. Stop the threat only.

Register with another forum that focuses on defensive carry/concealed carry. More activity on the subject, more info to glean.

At this time, no gun postings do not carry the weight of law in Colorado (as far as state statutes go - have not encountered a local ordinance that does). If you are caught, and asked to leave, you must or be charged with trespassing.

[Panther AR]

Sticks, I agree 200% with what you said: "One carries a firearm for DEFENSIVE reasons, and you shoot to STOP the threat, nothing more. There are fatal side effects to stopping the threat that occasionally happens, but that is not the intention. Stop the threat only." Very, very well said.

It is very common for people to think that once you are carrying you somehow become responsible for taking care of all the evils in the world. I had this feeling as I contemplated carrying....until I went through a wonderful CCW training program at Silver Bullet in Wheat Ridge. The instructor was amazing.

[Squeeze]

Foxtrot,

You are absolutely 100% correct. When I went to my NRA Instructor's Course, I saw the "profile" you are referring to and it made me sick. Something that will REALLY make you vomit - Iowa recently passed a conceal-carry law that mirrors Colorado's in most ways. When this happened, those types of instructors you are referring to FLOCKED to Iowa and started pushing out 4-hour classes of students by the hundreds at $50 a pop. I was also informed they were booking classes months in advance and filling them without problem.

A good friend of mine who lives in the southeast Iowa region went to one of those classes and was confused after it was all said & done. I did him a favor when I went out to visit & gave him a one-day class. Afterwards he stated how pissed he was about spending $50 on a garbage class from the previous instructor. The classes that don't require live fire is just beyond me and I don't know why they won't change that in the training requirement for CCW. These lazy, know-it-all instructors that only care about making $$$ and not producing quality over quantity just blows my mind. Your students are a reflection of you. If you teach garbage, you produce garbage.

[mousegun87]

I moved from Missouri 3 months ago. Since I plan to obtain my CHL from Colorado (just picked it up last week), I took a refresher course in Missouri taught by an NRA certified instructor who is also a deputy with the local Sheriff Department. In Missouri, the state law requires CCW training to be at least 8 hours long. It is also required for the training to include live fire practice and qualification. The practice part must be done using both pistol and revolver. But the participant can choose to qualify using either one depending on which kind of handgun he/she plans to carry. Overall, we fired almost 100 rounds of ammo from each gun (pistol and revolver) using various shooting scenarios.

The course also covers a lot of legal nuances of concealed carry. Having an instructor who is also a law enforcement officer also gave us a lot of insights into general LEO's perceptions on how they deal with citizens with concealed carry permit.

I also had taken an NRA basic pistol course. IMHO, the NRA basic pistol course is inadequate as a concealed carry training. I am also an NRA certified instructor (rifle) so I know what the goals set by NRA in designing these courses. These basic courses are designed to train people how to handle, maintain, store, and shoot the gun safely. But the NRA never intended these courses to prepare people to carry and possibly use firearms for defensive purposes. The NRA basic course covers parts of the curriculum needed for CHL training. But it is not adequate as a CHL training by itself. Now, some instructors could modify and expand the basic pistol course to cover CHL knowledge. This will also make the course much longer. If taught properly and thoughtfully, an NRA basic course should take between 8-12 hours. So an expanded one is likely to take longer.