Colorado CCW Training Warning

[Jumpstart]

"The 2nd Amendment is my concealed carry permit" Ted Nugent.

I'd have to say I agree with Uncle Ted.

[Jumpstart]

"The 2nd Amendment is my concealed carry permit" Ted Nugent.

I'd have to say I agree with Uncle Ted.

But I would add, training and education are your friend, just as long as it's not a mandate from whoever happens to be in power at a given time. I'm old school on gun rights gents.

[Bailey Guns]

Agree 100%, Jumpstart.

I think additional training is a great idea for those who have the means to obtain it. But mandating some sort of state-required qualification course? Bad, bad idea. Who gets to decide how much training or proficiency is enough? Who's gonna pay for it? Who's gonna administer it? What about requalification? Or is passing one time good enough? If advanced training is that important, the argument can easily be made that in order to carry one must "qualify" quarterly...or more often. At what cost? "Sorry...you missed your quarterly quals. No permit for you. You'll need to reapply." I can't even imagine the potential bureaucratic nightmares.

This is a can or worms we don't need to open as there is no need. There is no evidence of any real problem to which this is a solution.

It's no different than outlawing "Saturday Night Specials". Not everyone has the means to buy a Sig or a Kimber. Who are we to say that a Jennings isn't good enough to protect someone if that's all they can afford?

This whole idea smacks of elitism.

[Batteriesnare]

Agree 100%, Jumpstart.

I think additional training is a great idea for those who have the means to obtain it. But mandating some sort of state-required qualification course? Bad, bad idea. Who gets to decide how much training or proficiency is enough? Who's gonna pay for it? Who's gonna administer it? What about requalification? Or is passing one time good enough? If advanced training is that important, the argument can easily be made that in order to carry one must "qualify" quarterly...or more often. At what cost? "Sorry...you missed your quarterly quals. No permit for you. You'll need to reapply." I can't even imagine the potential bureaucratic nightmares.

While I agree that this would be an intense, potentially problematic process (especially at its beginning), I would submit that some form of proficiency may need to be demonstrated. Perhaps the requirement could be placed on the instructors before the certificate of completion is rendered, and if they do not comply, revoke their instructor certification.

For military and LEO, do they not have to qualify on a somewhat constant basis for firearm competency?

If someone is serious about being armed in public, wouldn't they (as well as the public around them) want the armed individual to have the skills to execute effectively should they need arise?

[Batteriesnare]

Also, just thought of something. What if when you went to renew your permit, thats when you had to re-qualify. Go to your certified trainer, shoot the required course, and turn it in with your renewal. I'm sure the argument will come up with one of my last points: LEO and Military have a greater propensity to use their weapons, and I concur, which is why a longer span in requalification would be acceptable.

[MichiganMilitia]

"The 2nd Amendment is my concealed carry permit" Ted Nugent.

I'd have to say I agree with Uncle Ted.

+1

I agree, training is an essential part of responsible firearm ownership, but at no point, EVER, should Big Brother be able to dictate the way I train.

[Squeeze]

I have read a lot of good information here in this thread. The one thing that really upsets me, is people looking for a "cheap" way to get their training. Seriously? That disgusts me. I am a certified NRA instructor and have taught several NRA classes. I know the Colorado State Law does not require a student to shoot or qualify in order to receive their certificate...however I have something to say about that:

1. I don't rent firearms - too much liability and I may not have what works for you or what you intend to carry.

2. I don't teach you a course without SEEING you competently handle a firearm safely and adequately shoot the firearm and hit your target.

If you don't like paying $125 for an NRA Basic Pistol Course (which is good for 10 years) and get quality training for your money, then don't call me. I have received %100 positive feedback from ALL my students and only advertise through word of mouth because I feel a reputation should speak for itself. Also, on a side note - Every dollar I make, goes back into my own training & equipment. I have 12 years military experience and I am constantly looking to attend new schools and have attended several training organizations. Don't be a liability to society...be an asset and GET TRAINING!

[DeusExMachina]

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