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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Howell View Post
    Great point about the poor Bailey. I'll be honest, I had never given that population much thought there. There may actually be a real need for training in that population. It really warrants some thought. I know in my personal courses, I offer a 10% discount to anyone who has served or to first responders, but I have not really concidered the plight of those who really need the education but it falls beyond their means.

    OK, I will conceed that requirements for training should not be in the realm of the politicians. AT ALL.

    That leaves it to those of us who are instructors in this field to be the responcible parties and be sure that we are teaching our students what the really need to know, instead of giving just the minimum that the law requires. People who are carrying concealed really need to know the laws governing use of force and all of the laws that they may come close to violating in their goal of personal protection, i.e. First Degree Kidnapping, Menacing, and wreakless endangerment just to name a few. This is one area that I have real heartburn with the NRA. According to them, the state laws are not to be instructed at all until an individual has passed their Basic Pistol, then their Advanced Pistol, and then their Personal Protection in the Home, and finally their Personal Protection Outside of the Home, and then, it must be taught by either a Lawyer, or LEO. You want to talk about a Barrier to your individual RIGHT?!? That screams barrier to me.

    The NRA doesn't insist/ require a person complete ALL handgun courses. ANY of the courses you listed is acceptable for CO CCW. An Attorney or LE is required to be the one during PP in or outside the home to discuss the legal side.
    Exactly who is "That population"? seems condescending / elitist to me. Sounds like how we are described when one anti is talking to another you know "That Population". Not saying you are, just not seeing anyone as "that".
    Myself, Se Habla Espanol, slowly but surely. The less than english fluent are an untapped source of students. Just because someone does not speak english, doesn't mean they have no desire to defend them self or their loved ones.
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