Hey, you're almost caught up to me. I got 10 toolhead stands with toolheads, dies, counters, powder alarm, powder charger, etc. I got about $4K tied up in XL650 stuff. :roll: As for savings.... I can do lead 9mm and 45 for about 25% of store bought IIRC. It pays off pretty fast for most handgun ammo. And it's the ONLY way I can afford to shoot lots from my MG. Karl.