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    Default New nut case control laws needed instead of gun control

    I read an article in a news paper today that struck a nerve. The topic was about increased gun control needed in the midst of the shooting of the congress woman. The basic point of the writer was that we should have more stringent gun control to eliminate the legality of a citizen to buy or own semiautomatic firearms. Their stance was that there was no good “Reason” why someone would need a semiautomatic weapon so it should be illegal to buy or own one.

    I know that gun control has been beat to death based on opinions and facts from both sides of the argument, so I am not going to get into that. The thing that I fail to understand is why people continually think that applying additional rules or laws to further restrict the choices of upstanding sane people is going to make a difference in what law breaking or insane people do. Law breaking or insane people only adhere to whatever THEY feel is right or wrong. They could give a crap about what others think.

    The other thing that really grates on me is that most people blame the tool used in an incident verses the individuals choice to do bad things with whatever tool they used. “If Johnny didn’t have a gun he wouldn’t have gone crazy and killed that person”…..WHAT???!!! That makes no sense at all. Johnny is crazy and would have used a #2 pencil to stab someone to death if that was the only tool he had to use. If someone is hell bent on attacking or killing someone else the tool they use has very little to do with detouring their intended actions.

    I just don’t understand how the vast majority of people in this world focus on the wrong thing. “Johnny” is the deadly weapon set loose on society, not what’s in his hands as he is committing his acts of terror.

    The other thing that I don’t understand is that people are always surprised when the next nut case comes out of their hiding place and does something tragic. There will always be the next nut case as its statistically impossible to not have a certain percentage of humans in this world turn out to be nut cases. Nut cases will always be part of society so why don’t we focus on “Fixing” the nut cases verses creating more restrictive laws that apply to everyone?

    Oh well, sorry about the rant. The ignorance of what is presented in modern media astounds me some times and I have to say something.

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    A while back I worked with a guy from tennessee, as big of a hick as hick can be.

    ever see king of the hill? know that toon on the show called boomhauer? I shit you not this guy sounded exactly like him when he talked.

    tried to talk guns with him and was surprised to find that he didn't like them or own any, and didn't think anybody else should be allowed to.

    his reason?

    he said that if he owned a gun he didn't think he'd be able to not get mad and shoot someone with it.

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    Elhuero> No problem with that. At least he is smart enough to make the right choice in not owning a gun because he knows that he wouldn't be able to control himself when he got mad if he did.

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    I know a couple guys like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    Elhuero> No problem with that. At least he is smart enough to make the right choice in not owning a gun because he knows that he wouldn't be able to control himself when he got mad if he did.

    True, but he thought all guns should be banned for the same reason.

    he was sure that there were people out there crazier than he and didn't want them to do the same thing.

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    I think that a lot of it is that in these days you're not allowed to "label" people. I work up at CSU and it is always surprising to me how hesitant people - students, faculty, and staff - are to address it when somebody is having substantial mental problems. They don't want to get somebody in trouble, or be accused of labeling somebody.

    I also think that as the national population density increases people with mental problems are increasingly forced into much closer proximity with others where decades ago they might have lived with fewer stimuli to make their problems worse.

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    the gun control crazies are just that, crazy.

    this guy would not have been stopped. he was a loner, a loser, a pot smoker, a conspiracy theorist, a drop out, and couldn't get in the .mil. the guy was an absolute failure.

    he would have got his drug dealer to get him a gun. we would have got a gun no matter what. he could have got ammo just as easy.

    thinking more gun control is going to equal out to less crime and less murders and deaths is just another farce that has been proven over and over, especially with clintons AWB. even the gun control advocates somewhat understand this.

    there has been way too many positives for the pro-2nd crowd in the last few years, even with a democratic controlled house senate and white house to have anything too serious even have a chance to make it to a vote. what that tells me is the supreme court is one of the most important places we need to have a majority. 2nd is that we need to keep the voice of the people free, keep on the elected officials and let them know we will not give up our rights. we will remove them from office, just as we did in 2010.

    (R) King up in NY should be next on the list and needs to be removed next time the vote comes up. his bullshit elitist comments need to be taken seriously, not lightly. he is on the side of bloomberg, MAIG and the other gun control advocates that believe they are above the ordinary citizen. fuck them all.

    1000' bubble around elected officials? ask Kennedy how that worked for him. Kennedy wasn't killed by a high cap mag gun, he wasn't killed with a semi-auto. yet those "evil" guns are on the hit list for the anti-gunners.
    more ignorance in this world as a result of liberals.
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    I still contend that until you can remove the evil out of the hearts of people (never happen), we will always have violent crimes against others.
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    Why'd you put pot smoking on the list?
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    So after they get done with the guns, they'll decide we don't need those evil assault baseball bats....then we won't need those wicked screwdrivers and CLAW HAMMERS!!! And we certainly have no need for an AXE!! Someone might get hurt! And all you golfers out there, you're just a problem waiting to happen...we might as well take care of your CLUBS preemptively...


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