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    Default Friendly FFL for Transfers?

    Howdy!

    I'm looking for a Friendly FFL for Transferring some Out of State Buys and, possibly, negotiating some purchases... if the price is right.

    I'm in Denver, Southeast and I work in Englewood.

    Who do y'all recommend?

    No need to post if "publicity" is a concern... send me a pm!

    Thanks!

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    Bill Stark, he's a retired gent that does transfers at his house. If you come by and do the paperwork first, then when you pick the gun up it's a $15 fee. He's near I-25 and County Line Rd. 303-771-4593

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    we really need a list stickied

    seems like we have at least one of these a month


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    next thing you know you are going to want people to use the search function.
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    HA!!! Good luck with that one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwripinz View Post
    Howdy!

    I'm looking for a Friendly FFL for Transferring some Out of State Buys and, possibly, negotiating some purchases... if the price is right.

    I'm in Denver, Southeast and I work in Englewood.

    Who do y'all recommend?

    No need to post if "publicity" is a concern... send me a pm!

    Thanks!
    Maybe I'm being a little over-sensitive. Maybe I'm reading more into this post than I really should. But posts like this really rub me the wrong way.

    I've been in the biz for about 10 years. I've never charged more than $25 (it was only $20 for the longest time) for a transfer. That $20 - $25 included:
    • Paperwork - faxing FFL to other dealers with attendant long distance charges
    • Maintaining paperwork according to BATFE rules
    • Phone calls on behalf of transferee
    • Time spent on background check
    • Physically receiving the gun
    • Disposing of all the trash/excess packing material with attendant costs of time and money
    • Cleaning up the mess because so many morons don't know how to pack stuff
    • Dealing with idiot customers (transferees) who think it's my fault or my responsibility that the item wasn't received when they thought it should be
    • Dealing with idiot customers who thought they shouldn't have to pay for the transfer because the gun wasn't what they expected
    • Dealing with idiot customers who thought I was responsible for refunding their money or shipping the gun back to the seller because it wasn't what they thought it should be
    • Dealing with idiot customers who thought it was my responsibility to be their warranty station for an online purchase
    • Receiving guns (way too often, I might add) with no return address, no documentation as to whom it's for, no way to contact the sender, no way to properly log it into the books without much time/resources spent on emails, phone calls, etc...
    I'll be honest. I really get tired of people who seem to think it's all on the FFL to be the "good" guy. Most dealers have overhead to take care of and the price for a transfer usually doesn't cover much of the cost when time is included.

    Transfers are a service. They're done for the benefit of the customer...not the FFL. I guarantee you the small price charged for transfers is oftentimes not worth it. Of course, there are exceptions.

    Many of my customers understand all of the above because they have an inkling of what it's like to run/operate/manage a business. The best customers, what I'll call the "friendly" customers, don't piss and moan about a measly $25 when they know they're already getting a good deal on an online purchase. They're thankful they have someone nearby and readily available to complete the transfer for them and understand there's a bottom line to be concerned about. I've always bent over backwards to deliver this customer the best service possible. And when they come back and actually buy something from my store, I keep that in mind and their transfer charges usually drop to $0 - $10.

    They don't have the attitude of "maybe I'll do you the favor of doing business with you in the future if you'll fore-go your pittance of a service fee for this transfer". Which, in reality means, "Fat chance, dude. I can get a cheaper price from an online dealer and reluctantly pay your $25 fee. But first I'll string you along a little bit and make a few phone calls to you and have you waste your time looking up a price and/or delivery time for my special order just to make you feel good." This is the customer that doesn't understand their $25, while a nice token, isn't really going to "save" the company from bankruptcy.

    So, my suggestion to those of you looking for a "friendly" FFL to do your transfers, is to look at how you want to be treated and then put yourself into the dealer's shoes. They like to be treated nicely, too.

    The $20 - $25 transfer fee you pay today could be one of the best professional relationship investments you make in the long run.
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    Where did that come from?

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    FFL transfers do seem to be a sensitive subject with a few gun dealers I know. For the price, and the work they do, it's really cheap at $25ish. Most of the local guys can't compete with the prices from online sales either.
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    I encourage everyone to try to buy from a local dealer if possible. I used Gun Genie to order a firearm and used a local dealer for the entire transaction. The dealer got to buy the gun at wholesale and sold it to me for less than MSRP. I did have to pay sales tax, but I helping to keep my dealer in business. After all, if you want to touch it and feel it before you buy, that is what the dealers are for.

    But I know that sometimes you have to do a transfer for what ever reason. I like TJ's Gunsmithing in Aurora.

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