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    Pinche Gringo brokenscout's Avatar
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    Default Just Wondering about obama

    I know he doesn't have the votes but??????????????
    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...d.aspx?id=6173

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    Read this article earlier on Arfcom. All hearsay at this point in my opinion.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1143918

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    Default I agree

    Maybe he is trying to boost the economy I think if he gets a second term thats when I think something will happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor Larson View Post
    Why are liberals such stupid cunts when it comes to guns, magazines, and the 2nd amendment???
    More like, why are liberals so stupid when it comes to EVERYTHING!

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    got the same email. not details. any bills out there that were going to be introduced seemed to be waaay too much to even come close to passing.

    it isn't what obama needs at this point. 2nd term I see him trying to ram something down.

    the only thing I worry about is a gun ban or restriction getting attached last minute or to a major republican backed bill that they will be forced to swallow and pass.

    I think we need to undercut the dems in the same way and the next big bill they want, and attach allowing new full automatics as legal purchases again.
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    Anyone think Obummer will get a second term? I'm not really worried about bans just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmg8550 View Post
    Anyone think Obummer will get a second term? I'm not really worried about bans just yet.


    If the 18-21 y/o's lose interest and stay home. And, the extreme leftist base continues to be pissed at him. Then, no, he has no shot.

    If those groups turn out for him, then, yes it's possible..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahabali View Post
    Read this article earlier on Arfcom. All hearsay at this point in my opinion.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1143918

    Mods are slacking this weekend.. and Arfcom quote/ reference with a LINK and he wasn't Banned and Beaten?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    If the 18-21 y/o's lose interest and stay home. And, the extreme leftist base continues to be pissed at him. Then, no, he has no shot.

    If those groups turn out for him, then, yes it's possible..
    Two word response:
    "Immigration Reform"

    If he is able to get a blanket reform bill passed then he will have all the votes he would need for a second term.

    Now to any upcoming legislation- I am pretty sure he will address the issue. After all the foopah over the Arizona incident he has to to save face and keep his "Anti's" happy. To what degree is yet to be determined.
    Now for the reality of the issue.
    We have some good foundations from the SCOTUS in regards to the Heller and McDonald decisions and RTKBA.
    One of the readings of the Heller brief was that it is Unconstitutional to ban a "Class" of firearm. That is good news. Yet they also stated the "reasonable restrictions" are acceptable. That is bad news.
    We have a large amount of elected officials that recognize the Arizona incident for what it was: the act of a deranged and sick individual. Very quickly after the Anti's started spouting off after the incident the Chairman of of the Judicial commitee who is a R stated that any new firearms legislation would have to pass by his commitee and the chances of anything being passed would be slim. We'll see.
    Even quite a few Demmies realize Arizona was a breakdown of the mental health and law enforcement system that allowed Loughner to lawfully purchase his weapon. There have also been many comments to the fact that new laws are not needed and the ones that are already on the books need to be enforced.
    Quite a few understand the fact that since the Klinton ban sunsetted violent crimes have actually gone down. After the Klinton ban expired and there were judicial hearings on re-instating it and making it permanent the Anti's got their collective asses handed to them. The statistics did not support their claims and even one of the most staunch antis at the time, Patricia Schroeder (D CO) stated that the ban was a waste of resources and would not endorse a future ban.

    The thing we have to be aware of is the fact that whilst campaigning and said here in Denver Obozo made it very clear he would re-instate the expired ban and "Permanent;ly rid the streets of Assault weapons".
    He has been silent on the issue as of yet.
    That makes one wonder.......................Executive Order time? He loves em!
    With his attempt to get Andrew Travers(Who is very Anti 2A) appointed to be Executive Director of the ATF that tells me he will approach the issue from a regulatory tangent. Classic "Progressive" tactic-control through regulation.
    Plus he has also stated he would leave "Gun Control" to the States to decide. If that occurs we have quite a bit to be concerned about. Look who our Governor is: Far Leftie Lib, signature member of Bloomingidiots "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" (MAIG). I could easily see Draconian measures similar to California being implemented here.

    I think we are going to see at least attempts at legislation.
    Now is the time to support the NRA,SAF, GOA, RMGO etc.
    It may very well be our best defense.
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    IR is the wildcard of course, I do believe it will get stalled out though. (Crossing fingers)

    Naw, I still think the biggest worry will be the 18-21 y/o group. More of them voted in the last presidential election than in the previous 3 combined. As long as they don't show up in force, full of "hope" again, He will have a hard time repeating.
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