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    http://www.examiner.com/conservative...-for-obamacare

    Virginia seeks fast track to Supreme Court for ObamaCare
    February 3rd, 2011 8:14 pm ET

    The state of Virginia has announced that it will seek to put ObamaCare on the fast track for U.S. Supreme Court intervention, bypassing the lower court appeals process.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com: Virginia seeks fast track to Supreme Court for ObamaCare - National Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/conservative...#ixzz1D0jaeXY4
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    SEIU fights healthcare repeal after obtaining waivers from law By Alexander Bolton - 02/02/11 05:01 PM ET

    The Service Employees International Union (SEIU) is lobbying hard against the amendment offered by Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) to repeal the healthcare reform law.

    SEIU has sent e-mails to Senate offices urging lawmakers to vote against the proposal to unwind President Obama’s signature domestic initiative.
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    Sniper7,
    I have to respectfully ask you bud -- do you know that we are the only MODERN country that does not have some sort of Universal Healthcare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabellum9 View Post
    Sniper7,
    I have to respectfully ask you bud -- do you know that we are the only MODERN country that does not have some sort of Universal Healthcare?
    "Some sort of UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE?"
    What does that have anything to do with FORCING every citizen to buy his/her insurance. Btw, 'some sort' of universal healthcare do exist. You don't see people being turned away from the hospitals do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by parabellum9 View Post
    Sniper7,
    I have to respectfully ask you bud -- do you know that we are the only MODERN country that does not have some sort of Universal Healthcare?

    yeah, I Sure am Glad that you emphasized "Modern".

    Kuwait has a Universal health care.
    Germany has a Universal health care.
    as I am sure others do too

    but they aren't modern at all.




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    Quote Originally Posted by parabellum9 View Post
    Sniper7,
    I have to respectfully ask you bud -- do you know that we are the only MODERN country that does not have some sort of Universal Healthcare?
    Healthcare is not a right.

    Obamacare treats healthcare as a right and it also imposes costs on individuals that are unconstitutional.

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    I don't think they treat it like a right. They treat it like a requirement. No one forces you to exercise your other rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parabellum9 View Post
    Sniper7,
    I have to respectfully ask you bud -- do you know that we are the only MODERN country that does not have some sort of Universal Healthcare?

    Totally in for this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by parabellum9 View Post
    Sniper7,
    I have to respectfully ask you bud -- do you know that we are the only MODERN country that does not have some sort of Universal Healthcare?
    I'd be ok if someone could come up with a solid plan for universal health care. If they could do it cheaper, better and not expect every middle class worker to pay for 10 non-workers.

    Obamacare isn't universal health care, it is required health insurance which = unconstitutional and STUPID when there are federally subsidized clinics everywhere that will treat you for next to nothing.

    That... and we can't even keep social security and medicare from failing... can we REALLY add something like Obamacare that is 10x larger than those two combined and 1000x more complicated and actually expect it to succeed? Let alone expect it so SAVE everyone money like they want the gullible voters to believe.

    thanks, but I'll keep paying $8k/year in health insurance until someone with some sense comes up with a plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabellum9 View Post
    Sniper7,
    I have to respectfully ask you bud -- do you know that we are the only MODERN country that does not have some sort of Universal Healthcare?
    While I'm sure that there are health care horror stories in any health care system in the world and there are plenty of folks who are happy with the systems the way they are, those recipients of the Canadian and U.K. Healthcare systems, most individuals of both systems are very dissatisfied with them.

    The U.S. Government has been offering universal healthcare to one particular subset of our population for some time now and it has FAILED miserably.

    I'm speaking of the Indian Health Service. This is exactly what the U.S. government intended to ply on the rest of the population and it only has to provide healthcare service to <2 million Native American's - not 270 million as ObamaCare intends to do.

    Ask ANYONE who has been a recipient of this "care" just what level of care they receive under this program and you'll get the same answer from nearly everyone - they'd get better care using old traditional holistic practices.

    If this system is so great, then explain to me why the average life expectancy of Native Americans is 8 years less than the rest of the American population.

    While we're at it, how about the Veterans Administration Hospital and medical service? While it has certainly come a LONG way from the horrid level of care that was afforded to our service members during and following the Vietnam conflict, it's still a far cry from the level of care you can currently, under our capitalistic system, receive.

    Look at our government and the mess it's in. This is who you want running the system that is tasked to provide you with healthcare? Not me; keep it private.
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