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    http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/01/ye.../?ncid=webmail

    apparently we ARE being watched! these guys are trolling our forums and writing articles about our thoughts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    I've got some source for you:

    Fact, greenhouse gasses account for less than 2% of the global climate model, which has not changed. It was the same when I was in school, when you were in school, but it isn't curriculum anymore, because it conflicts with the religion of carbon-cause climate change according to the profit (oop, sorry, prophet) with financial motives, al-gore, and those like him. Data on the other 98% of the climate model isn't even historically available.

    Fact, of that 2%, carbon dioxide is a minority contributor. METHANE is a much more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide is. If you believe CO2 is causing "climate change", then PETA is correct and its actually cows causing it.

    Fact: We have less than 40 years of global data that can be considered scientifically accurate, but "climate change" scientists make broad statements on how things have been, or how they will be, based on less than four decades of evidence. This is akin to seeing a single frame of a movie, one sixtieth of a second, and telling everybody what the plot is going to be, and how it ends.

    Fact: It's scientifically impossible to determine actual temperature prior to phsyical measurement and recording. All that is possible is "guessing", with HUGE margins of error. Find the 10,000 year temperature graphs that you so diligently base your faith in your religion in. Notice they say accuracy to (1/10th of a degree) or some other load of horse crap. Now, look at scientific charts from other points of view, and notice they have as much as 10 degrees of variation, but show the general peaks and lands and still claim 1/10th of a degree of accuracy. Guess what, both are bullshit. Through all means, they are LUCKY, and I mean LUCKY, if they get a margin of error that's 5-10 degrees. Yet their entire "cooling" and "warming" trends are by the tenth of the degree. Can you not smell the bullshit? And no, I don't mean cavemen didn't have thermometers. I mean the vibration of atoms leaves no record. All they have to go on is barometric pressures in bubbles, size of tree rings, etc. Do you honestly think you can guess the temperature to a tenth of a degree by looking at a flipping tree ring? So, each side (pro global warming, anti global warming) looks at the same set of data, and "interprets" it to the extreme ends of the margin of error to prove a point... they call it valid because its "inside the margin of error" but it is not science. It's perception.

    But, I do believe in the free expression of religion, so carry on. Don't try to pretend its anything more than blind faith in a "theory", because the real evidence doesn't exist (and it doesn't exist either way).

    And don't call for evidence disproving it as there is no evidence proving it in the first place. The burden of proof rests on the theory, not the status quo. I could make up a theory that three legged aliens live in the core of the earth, are you supposed to believe it with blind faith just cause I said so? Or should I have to prove it before its made into curriculum in the K-12 educational system.

    Last fact: Carbon caused "climate change" is an invented assumption that has its roots mostly driven by politics, it demonizes the things that certain people want to be demonized; also people that tend to already dislike those things (factories, oil, etc.) will tend to believe it just for that fact. Instant followers of a religion.

    Oh and ETA: Don't make any assumptions as to my bias with things. I actually KNOW a way to get us off oil dependance, but I don't think I'll ever see it in my lifetime, despite how much I'd like to see it realized. The difference is, I want it because its politically and economically beneficial. How would you like to drive across country for $20-$40 instead of $1500 and not have to worry about international issues? This is called intelligence.

    Doing something because "herpa derp I'm reducin' emissions" is just peons of a religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Emissions are rising at an unprecedented rate.

    Also, methane degrades into water and CO2 in a relatively short time. Compared to:



    Believing that we are not having an effect on our planet is just sticking your thumbs in your ears and going "la-la-la"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkfool View Post
    0.039% CO²
    Almost four one-hundreths of ONE PERCENT of our 'air'.
    Yeah... we're killin' ourselves.

    which is a good thing. someone mentioned earlier that it was 9%. um yeah, we would all be toast at that %%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Well back in my youth, more or less the same people were certian the "The new ice age" was on it's way. Within 10 years there would be a layer of ice 50' thick from the north pole to the equator.

    Didn't happen.

    A few years they were back, claiming the hole in the ozone was going to expand. Thus incinerating everything on earth.

    Didn't happen.

    Then they were sure "The big one" was going to hit the west coast. Making Boulder a ocean front town.

    Didn't happen either..

    Pardon my skepticism at this point my life. But, with thier track record with the end of the world predictions thus far. I'm not holding my breath on this one either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    send me a PM on jan 1 2013!

    How? we won't be here..



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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Do you know for certain that doubling the amount of CO2 has not and will not have negative ramifications?
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    And obviously you are the genius that will say it will?
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    I don't understand all the science everyone has figured out, but I do understand Al Gore heating and cooling his many houses each 10x at least the size of mine speaks loudly of his motivation, and that drowns out his credibility... assuming he has any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/01/ye.../?ncid=webmail

    apparently we ARE being watched! these guys are trolling our forums and writing articles about our thoughts!
    and right below that "Charlie Sheen Wanted Porn Star to Baby Sit Kids, Porn Star Says"

    it derailed me completely

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    I don't get some of the arguements and comments made on some of these posts... For some of you I don't think anyone can change your mind on the topic because you apparently know everything, right? Once again like I see people say all the time, list a source other than some reporter that doesn't know a damn thing saying the same ignorant comment my 5 year old pops off with of "it's cold, so, there is no such thing as global warming/climate change" because that is completely ignorant. You might as well say that global warming/climate change doesn't exist because your mama said so. I could list countless studies done by NASA, Harvard, Stanford, numerous other legit scientific communities and way too many other credible sources that have had actual data on this subject. Like I said though, for many of you it wouldn't matter who or what came up with the data, you would blindly turn your head away and walk off. I guess everyone is out to get your "briliant" minds that don't need any actual information about a subject to know that what you think about it is right. I don't even know why some of you even post in threads like this. Your mind is set, and you just want to argue instead of trying to have an intelligent conversation. Some of you make retarded jack ass comments toward others because of the way they think. What's up with that? Pull your head out and stop trying to be pricks. Most of the time, those that attack others in these forums just sound really immature and stupid. I originally posted in this thread expecting an intellectual discussion, not a bunch of whiney butt hurt people talking about things that they don't appear to actually know anything about till they google it right before they post a comment. As amusing as some of the comments on here are, I would really like to see proof. Not because I don't believe you, well, I guess it is because I don't believe you, but if the actual study or science behind your comment makes more sense than what I have read or believe, I could make up my mind for myself on rather or not to change what it is that I believe in.
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