Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
My bad, it seems from reports that the law would get rid of the permitting process. With out a permit, you don't get much reciprocity. Try putting in Vermont into a reciprocity map and see how limited your options are. As long as we still have a permit process so that I have some kind of reciprocity when I travel I don't have a problem with the law.

As to training, if you can read all the statues that pertain to CCW and the use of force and understand all the nuances and case law- more power to you. I think it is less than one in a hundered lay people that could correctly interpret the laws. If people want to CCW with out getting some knowledge, I hope they end up only hurting themselves either physically or legally. From the complete and utter stupidity I heard in my CCW class and see every time I go to a gun store, I really wish people get more training.

If people think the ability to tuck a Hi-point in their belt under their shirt is all it takes to be effective in defending yourself and keeping yourself out of 'pound you in the ass jail', that is the silliest thing I've read.

Maybe if they pass the law they can add to the High School curriculum instruction on proper CCW and its issues. Why not, we already have all kinds of MADD, sex, and diversity training. Why not some basic firearms handling training.
Actually all the articles I've read specifically state that the permit system will remain in place for specifically the reason of reciprocity.

I wish people got more training, too. And some do. Most don't. Guess who continue to carry after the novelty wears off?

Again, I would happily deal with the possibility of coming into contact with some idiot that is carrying (which, as all indicators show from other states, is very minimal) to restore people's rights.