Concealed Carry Ammo Question

[sully3acr]

Such a well thought out and well articulated point.
Your eloquent mastery of the English language is absolutely phenomenal. Surely, are you a master novelist.
The counter arguments you highlighted are so well expressed I cannot help but to see your point of view.


[/sarcasm]

Woops!! Sorry for speaking out loud. I can't stand that guy........Sully

[Bailey Guns]

Fuck Massad Ayoob!, ball ammo / hand loads have been killing people 4. years!

Edited...I see you self moderated somewhat.

Besides...the point was simply to illustrate there are potential issues in court when using handloads. It wasn't to personally attack someone for the information they presented.

[sully3acr]

Edited...I see you self moderated somewhat.

Besides...the point was simply to illustrate there are potential issues in court when using handloads. It wasn't to personally attack someone for the information they presented.

Yeah, sorry I just can't stand that guy. This talk just makes people so scared to act! I. Mean really, if you have to defend your self or your family who cares what ammo you do it with!!

[Bailey Guns]

I agree there are other things far more important to worry about "in the moment". But if it takes a bad turn for you in court - and you could've easily avoided it - why wouldn't you?

I've spent a lot of time in court and I've seen what type of arguments lawyers (on both sides) can make, to know that I'll take my chances with factory ammo. One less thing to worry about.

BTW...I don't necessarily disagree with you about Ayoob. But I think he's pretty much right on regarding this issue.

Cheers...

[SA Friday]

Woops!! Sorry for speaking out loud. I can't stand that guy........Sully

I don't necessarily agree with everything he says either. Never the less, the case precedence sited and the numerous times he testified as an expert witness in self defense shootings shouldn't be disregarded. Bailey's post pretty much summed it up. If you are going to carry, the amount on some factory ammo is minuscule to the other costs. Why on earth would you feel the need to carry reloads instead is beyond me.

[sully3acr]

You guys are right! I have spent alot of time in the court room too, its all about what you can articulate. I carry factory Ammo in all my guns. I just hate the thought that someone would hesitate to act because of the ammo they are using. I agree just carry factory loads!

[Byte Stryke]

I. Mean really, if you have to defend your self or your family who cares what ammo you do it with!!

The Prosecuting attorney trying to make a name for himself does. He will do this by vilifying you, your hand loads, your guns and then mine.
He's going to stand in front of the camera in a slick suit and fear monger the public about how we are terrorists for firing deadly assault weapons with overpowered cop-killer hand loaded bullets.
He will mix in other keywords like irresponsible, reckless, and needless.
Then he will show how some ballistics test somewhere proves that your hand loaded ammunition could have killed some ones baby in the house next door.

For all of that fight and argument I prefer to let Hornady fight that fight.
They have a larger legal fund than I do.

[sully3acr]

[QUOTE=sully3acr;306368]Fuck Massad Ayoob!

[sully3acr]

The Prosecuting attorney trying to make a name for himself does. He will do this by vilifying you, your hand loads, your guns and then mine.
He's going to stand in front of the camera in a slick suit and fear monger the public about how we are terrorists for firing deadly assault weapons with overpowered cop-killer hand loaded bullets.
He will mix in other keywords like irresponsible, reckless, and needless.
Then he will show how some ballistics test somewhere proves that your hand loaded ammunition could have killed some ones baby in the house next door.

For all of that fight and argument I prefer to let Hornady fight that fight.
They have a larger legal fund than I do.

You do have a valid point! But!! I think everyone is reading way too much into this. How would anyone know, "I feared for my life and they gave me no other choice". I just think bullets are bullets.

[DeusExMachina]

Fuck Massad Ayoob!, ball ammo / hand loads have been killing people 4. years!

You guys are right! I have spent alot of time in the court room too, its all about what you can articulate. I carry factory Ammo in all my guns. I just hate the thought that someone would hesitate to act because of the ammo they are using. I agree just carry factory loads!

You obviously missed the point.