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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    You obviously missed the point.
    I guess so........

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    Thanks everyone for your input! I'd have to agree that factory loads are probably the best choice to avoid any BS in court.

    However, it's bullshit that people have the nerve to try and sue because their "POS" family members broke the law and threatened someones life enough that they had to do the unthinkable and defend themselves.

    It shouldn't matter what type of ammo I use to defend myself, as long as its not an incendiary or explosive round. I realize that my example is a bit extreme, but who loads their own ammo to a level that is that so intense w/o their gun blowing up in their hands when it fires such a "killer" load, that super exceeds the factory loads available?

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    Is the choice of ammo going to be enough, on its own, to effect whether or not a shoot falls under the castle doctrine law?

    So, if you are in your home, would it even get to the point where anyone even asked what kind of ammo you used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82ndShooter View Post
    However, it's bullshit that people have the nerve to try and sue because their "POS" family members broke the law and threatened someones life enough that they had to do the unthinkable and defend themselves.
    You must not have read the thread about Dep. Brownlee's killer's family trying to sue the County.... Those type of people are out there and unfourtanately, they're local.

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    Load and shoot all factory until it runs out, which might only be 5 rounds or a magazine full, if there are no other factory rounds available, I'm shooting defensive reloads, then I'm down to ball and cast practice rounds.

    I'm on the fence about this reload vs factory thing. You honestly cannot create a reload that is much beyond the maximum in the load books, you'll blow your hand off or cause some other major damage to yourself. You can't buy any super duper bullets to stuff on top of your reloads. Hornady XTP, Golden Sabre, Silver Tips, etc. are not any more than what is already on top of factory loads. (right?)

    I see the point of arguing the "Special Homemade Bullets" in court, and with enough money can be proved they are not special most likely.

    I choose to carry factory to save the hassle and money in the long run.

    I will ask a few lawyer type friends to get their opinions and report back.

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    For you guys who are saying that reloads aren't any more powerful or deadly than factory loads, etc... You're right.

    But you're not going to be arguing that point to other gun people. You're going to be trying to convince people who get their gun training from Hollywood and Michael Moore movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    For you guys who are saying that reloads aren't any more powerful or deadly than factory loads, etc... You're right.

    But you're not going to be arguing that point to other gun people. You're going to be trying to convince people who get their gun training from Hollywood and Michael Moore movies.
    You mean the twelve citizens who didn't have anything better to do than get $12 per day to hear stories from lawyers about why you should have shot the misunderstood, unfortunate, mother's son in the leg?

    Should we have special rounds just for all of the warning shots many citizens think we should fire before double tapping little Johnny?
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    I understand the possible liability issue with factory vs personally reloaded rounds, but where does that leave people who use a reloading company that uses commercial components including bullets?

    I'm not picking on Bullet Boy Ammo, but in my mind, the only difference there between factory and reloaded is recycled brass, better quality control, and a better price into the bargain from Bullet Boy.

    If you like to practice with what you carry and you are going to shoot a 1000 rounds to make certain that you have the right handgun, ammunition, and skills for the job, then using non-exotic reloads make a lot of sense.

    If you aren't up to being sued, you probably shouldn't leave your house. It's like an accident, nobody wants it to happen, but when it does, you just have to deal with it.
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