Hospitals in AZ potentially to require proof of citizenship

[buffalobo]

Unfortunately, liberal federal judge would quickly approve injunction against such a law and allow it to be tied up in court for years. Effectively nullifying it.

[BigMat]

This is nonsense.


I used to work search and rescue with Border Patrol. We/They would drop illegals at hospitals all the time, "in custody" and they would walk out the front door of the hospital, because Border Patrol didn't want to pay for it/didn't care.

Best way to get into the US-
-climb Mexican side of the fense
-Fall off of fence onto US side
-twist ankle
-drive to Tucson hospital in Border Patrol air conditioned custody or better, in a bed in the back of an ambulance, or better still, get a free helicopter ride!
-Get meds and care on private hospital company dime
-walk out of hospital in major US city because BP doesn't want to pay for what the hospital has to and didn't show up to come and get you.


Just worthless rubber stampers who have no concept of what is really happening making noise

[sniper7]

This is nonsense.


I used to work search and rescue with Border Patrol. We/They would drop illegals at hospitals all the time, "in custody" and they would walk out the front door of the hospital, because Border Patrol didn't want to pay for it/didn't care.

Best way to get into the US-
-climb Mexican side of the fense
-Fall off of fence onto US side
-twist ankle
-drive to Tucson hospital in Border Patrol air conditioned custody or better, in a bed in the back of an ambulance, or better still, get a free helicopter ride!
-Get meds and care on private hospital company dime
-walk out of hospital in major US city because BP doesn't want to pay for what the hospital has to and didn't show up to come and get you.


Just worthless rubber stampers who have no concept of what is really happening making noise

so...wouldn't this law be able to stop the admittance of such illegals to any hospital. I would have to hope/think so. No legal status = no care. unless they have the cash to pay up front, then they should not get care.

[BigMat]

Pulled form an edit above-

By the way, I personally transported a little girl, less than a year old, to a Mexican hospital from an American one because she had AIDs and no one would pay for it. I would rather get treatment in most of your houses than the hospital we stopped at, we backed our box up on top of an open man hole to the sewer, and that was just the start of this. I am not proud of this to this day. Reality bites.

I would rather be poor my whole life than support this ever again. I am not even a very good Christian but this is abhorrent


My heart is aching just thinking about her. I don't suggest you follow my lead.

[Byte Stryke]

I Agree that Citizenship should be checked at Hospitals
de facto ICE Agents or not... you are preventing FRAUD and ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

NOW... that being said, I Do not believe that ANY Person, Illegal or otherwise with a life threatening condition should be turned away.

If its an illegal and they have a serious ailment, by all means, Treat the ailment and give them a "Bus pass home"

As for the person "afraid" of getting caught, Don't break the law and you won't have to be afraid.

[BigMat]

NOW... that being said, I Do not believe that ANY Person, Illegal or otherwise with a life threatening condition should be turned away.

This is not possible-

For example, the first person I transported who died-

picked him up for Diarrhea (the glories of EMS)
dropped him at the hospital doing compresions


He was having a heart attack, wouldn't have known until it was too late

[Byte Stryke]

This is not possible-

For example, the first person I transported who died-

picked him up for Diarrhea (the glories of EMS)
dropped him at the hospital doing compresions


He was having a heart attack, wouldn't have known until it was too late

well if you dropped him at the hospital doing compressions his citizenship status would not have been questioned until you dropped him off... correct?
The whole article is about Hospitals doing this, not Ambulances.
Once again, if you are concerned about getting caught breaking the law, Don't.

[THe Yetti]

So, you are in favor of illegal immigrants, who pay no taxes, getting free health care? And a regular tax paying citizen such as you or me has to pay huge sums for it whether we have insurance or not. It angers me to no end to be funding health care for someone who isn't even here legally to get services I can't afford for myself and my family. Am I way off on this?

[BigMat]

So, you are in favor of illegal immigrants, who pay no taxes, getting free health care? And a regular tax paying citizen such as you or me has to pay huge sums for it whether we have insurance or not. It angers me to no end to be funding health care for someone who isn't even here legally to get services I can't afford for myself and my family. Am I way off on this?

Not at all, my wife just got insurance and I just canceled mine, and I work/go to school in health care. It sucks, I know, but the simple fact is, this isn't where the problem lies. listen to politians and talk show junkies say it is all you want, but from the eyes of the insides, if you want to stop wasting money on health care, there is a different place to look. Worthless POS Americans who use the health care system. I transported a guy because he wanted to get across town and we were faster than a cab, no joke. I rutinely picked up a woman who weighed 500+ pounds and costed AZ more than 3 million a year, because she ate too much. I transported her once, after she called 911, because she was gaining weight!

thats where the money goes, because we can't say no to people who don't need it and abuse it, not because we say no to people who need it and didn't pay into it. I can say in all honesty, I transported a known illegal less than 10 times. But, I've transported the same drunk bum more than once in a shift! Fix this, and you will save a lot of money, get the lawyers out of it, and you will save a lot of money, get patient expectations to reality, and you will save a lot of money, get the illegals out, and you will save a LITTLE money. (I could go on)

[Byte Stryke]

Not at all, my wife just got insurance and I just canceled mine, and I work/go to school in health care. It sucks, I know, but the simple fact is, this isn't where the problem lies. listen to politians and talk show junkies say it is all you want, but from the eyes of the insides, if you want to stop wasting money on health care, there is a different place to look. Worthless POS Americans who use the health care system. I transported a guy because he wanted to get across town and we were faster than a cab, no joke. I rutinely picked up a woman who weighed 500+ pounds and costed AZ more than 3 million a year, because she ate too much. I transported her once, after she called 911, because she was gaining weight!

thats where the money goes, because we can't say no to people who don't need it and abuse it, not because we say no to people who need it and didn't pay into it. I can say in all honesty, I transported a known illegal less than 10 times. But, I've transported the same drunk bum more than once in a shift! Fix this, and you will save a lot of money, get the lawyers out of it, and you will save a lot of money, get patient expectations to reality, and you will save a lot of money, get the illegals out, and you will save a LITTLE money. (I could go on)

Health Care. State-funded uncompensated outlays for health care provided to Colorado’s illegal alien population amount to more than an estimated $82 million a year. That is a net cost after crediting compensation from the federal government. Additionally, Coloradans who have medical insurance also pay higher medical insurance bills to help cover the costs of those without insurance.

Now, I am not saying the system is perfect, but $82 Million would buy allot of school books.