Hospitals in AZ potentially to require proof of citizenship

[Byte Stryke]

I Agree that Citizenship should be checked at Hospitals
de facto ICE Agents or not... you are preventing FRAUD and ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

NOW... that being said, I Do not believe that ANY Person, Illegal or otherwise with a life threatening condition should be turned away.

If its an illegal and they have a serious ailment, by all means, Treat the ailment and give them a "Bus pass home"

As for the person "afraid" of getting caught, Don't break the law and you won't have to be afraid.

[BigMat]

NOW... that being said, I Do not believe that ANY Person, Illegal or otherwise with a life threatening condition should be turned away.

This is not possible-

For example, the first person I transported who died-

picked him up for Diarrhea (the glories of EMS)
dropped him at the hospital doing compresions


He was having a heart attack, wouldn't have known until it was too late

[Byte Stryke]

This is not possible-

For example, the first person I transported who died-

picked him up for Diarrhea (the glories of EMS)
dropped him at the hospital doing compresions


He was having a heart attack, wouldn't have known until it was too late

well if you dropped him at the hospital doing compressions his citizenship status would not have been questioned until you dropped him off... correct?
The whole article is about Hospitals doing this, not Ambulances.
Once again, if you are concerned about getting caught breaking the law, Don't.

[BigMat]

well if you dropped him at the hospital doing compressions his citizenship status would not have been questioned until you dropped him off... correct?
The whole article is about Hospitals doing this, not Ambulances.
Once again, if you are concerned about getting caught breaking the law, Don't.

What if he walked in the door is what I am saying. Triage nurse turns him around? dies on the curb? thats great for business, I'm sure hospitals will be all over this

[BigMat]

Just to take another view on this-
I work in health care
cops, BP, ICE etc. work in law enforcement.

I did not sign up to enforce anything, I am trained to not judge my patients.


This is making those who have no desire to do this, who have no training to do this, and have no place doing this, and I worked/work for a private business, do something because law enforcement at every level keeps failing at it.

Maybe we should be asking why the border is so open that nurses need to be doing imigration busts!

[Irving]

I'm not comfortable with doctors enforcing the law, just as much as I'm not comfortable with politicians trying to run health care.

I guess you guys would like to start the new motto of "When seconds count, your ID is only miles away."

I don't like illegals anymore than any of you guys do. I actually cry a little every time I go to King Soopers and everyone always knows about "that lone, teary-eyed, gringo" that shops there. A law like this would be terrible for everyone though. My fiance isn't a citizen, but she is a permanent resident, has lived here longer than I have, has supported me, more or less, since I lost my job (the first time) in 2008, and has more "American Values" than I'll have in my entire life. Alas, she looks like a *Mexican. She is the one with the health insurance for her and our daughter. We all carry our info all the time, but God forbid something happens and her, or our daughter's, proof of citizenship isn't available.

In case I have to spell it out. If some dumb fuck thinks that he/she is being patriotic and denies service to my family in a life threatening emergency, they won't be making it home to their family, ever. It won't matter who thought who was American then.




*Call her a Mexican and she'll unsheath her machete and redecorate your face.

[BigMat]

*Call her a Mexican and she'll unsheath her machete and redecorate your face.

Just a guess, Guatemalan?


Also, I fully agree. It's not my place just as much as I am not asking cab drivers, pilots, or plumbers to check ID and make sure your customer isn't a felon before saying hello.

[Byte Stryke]

In case I have to spell it out. If some dumb fuck thinks that he/she is being patriotic and denies service to my family in a life threatening emergency, they won't be making it home to their family, ever. It won't matter who thought who was American then.

wow, talk about twisting the argument.

No one ever said Deny service in a life threatening emergency.
I believe I Said the opposite.

But yeah, threatening to intentionally kill people makes a perfectly logical point.

[sniper7]

Just to take another view on this-
I work in health care
cops, BP, ICE etc. work in law enforcement.

I did not sign up to enforce anything, I am trained to not judge my patients.


This is making those who have no desire to do this, who have no training to do this, and have no place doing this, and I worked/work for a private business, do something because law enforcement at every level keeps failing at it.

Maybe we should be asking why the border is so open that nurses need to be doing imigration busts!

meh...welcome to my life. All I want to do is fly the jet. now we have to worry about the security side, reporting suspicious passengers, flight attendants watching alcohol consumption, gate agents verifying ID.

just part of the job any more.

[rockhound]

Maybe we should be asking why the border is so open that nurses need to be doing imigration busts!

YOU SIR HAVE JUST HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD