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    Study on stopping power. A very interesting read.

    http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866



    Bottom line, rule number one in a gunfight........HAVE A GUN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscwerve View Post
    Study on stopping power. A very interesting read.

    http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866



    Bottom line, rule number one in a gunfight........HAVE A GUN.
    That was very ineresting, it makes me feel better about my 380, I guess you cant argue with it when it is in black and white unless you do your own study.

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    I posted that link in some thread a while back... glad Atrain got a look at it, its a good read.

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    I personally feel comfortable carrying a Kahr CW40. Whatever you choose to defend yourself/family with, make sure that you practice enough to know you can rely on it with confidence and know where it will hit at different distances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain1 View Post
    I shot a cell phone with a 9mm and the bullet got stopped by the thin sheet metal inside the phone, I also shot that same phone with a 45 and another like it and could not find the phone to see what happened.

    I use Copenhagen lids as targets sometimes. 9mm and other faster moving rounds generally penetrate. .45ACP and .50AE usually put a big dent in it and make it fly off somewhere.

    Why the .45ACP is good:

    ~More holes makes for deader bad guys.
    (fixed)
    Why the .45ACP sucks:

    ~Expensive
    ~Not a good package for CCW. Low-cap in a CCW package usually. This means your CCW and Main sidearm might be two different calibers. Very inefficient.

    Why the 9mm is good:

    ~It's more prolific then Barny the purple dinosaur.
    ~NATO uses it
    ~Cheap to shoot
    ~High Velocity compared to .45ACP, speed kills
    ~Fits great in a ccw, a lot of rounds in a fairly compact size.

    Why the 9mm is bad:

    ~Smaller hole
    You seem to think "smaller" means "too small."
    ~Not enough energy for large furry animals with sharp teeth.
    Plenty of energy for two-legged targets.
    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain1 View Post
    Trust me I dont read gun magazines, I can only name one, so let me ask you this if you had to make a chioce to get shot with a 9 or a 45 what would it be?
    A .45... more recoil means the shooter is less likely to get another round off before I get rounds on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    A .45... more recoil means the shooter is less likely to get another round off before I get rounds on him.
    I cant argue that either, that is why I want a 38 super from what I understand it has more kinetic energy than a 45, but the recoil of a 9mm that to me would be the perfect compromise but again that is my opinion. Does anyone have any input on this?

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    The 9 is fine!

    Long live the SIG 228!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain1 View Post
    I cant argue that either, that is why I want a 38 super from what I understand it has more kinetic energy than a 45, but the recoil of a 9mm that to me would be the perfect compromise but again that is my opinion. Does anyone have any input on this?
    I like the 38 super. In a 1911 type gun you get a couple more shots and the follow up is faster than the 45. I have a couple of 10 rounders for a Govt/Commander size one. Just my two thoughts on that.

    I also believe that it is a very personal choice what one carries. I do know that if it a 9mm it is not getting ball ammo. A very good friend of mine had an up close and personal encounter in the sand box with his M9 and a bomb wearing Hadji.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    I like the 38 super. In a 1911 type gun you get a couple more shots and the follow up is faster than the 45. I have a couple of 10 rounders for a Govt/Commander size one. Just my two thoughts on that.

    I also believe that it is a very personal choice what one carries. I do know that if it a 9mm it is not getting ball ammo. A very good friend of mine had an up close and personal encounter in the sand box with his M9 and a bomb wearing Hadji.
    What do you mean about the 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    A .45... more recoil means the shooter is less likely to get another round off before I get rounds on him.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50...e_gdata_player

    All the shooting in this was done with factory 45 ACP. He even talks about how a proper grip causes the gun to return to sight picture faster and shows it at about 2:30 of the vid.
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