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    Grand Master Know It All newracer's Avatar
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    When a range is closed the amount of lead present and the furure use dictates if the lead would have to be cleaned up or not. For example if houses are to be built where a range was a clean up would almost be mandatory.

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    Delphi,
    The idea is to set the example, maybe, just maybe, if some one sees You packing out trash, maybe they'll pack some out also. If not today, tomorrow. The experiance up at Lefthand canyon to this day still pisses Me off a little, While We were there cleaning up four or five cars pulled up, found out that they would be able to shoot besause We were cleaning, and just left.

    I couldn't help but think that they might be some of the Yahoos that were responsible for the mess. All hope was not lost that day though, there were a couple of guys that came up to shoot and stayed to help.

    I don't know, frankly I don't think it's that hard to take out what You take in. Unfortunatly though, if the attitudes of some you these people doesn't change {Yes I'm including Yours also} it is going to be to late to do anything about it. Kind of a sad state of affairs.

    Next time Your there, pack out some trash, Believe Me, it won't kill You.
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    I'll go out on a limb here and say if you don't want to clean up after yourself or help the group in doing so, then we don't want you.






    (and no, this is not directed at anyone in particular.)

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    Default Speaking of cleaning up...

    Anybody know when the next organized effort will be at Lefthand canyon? Everytime I've planned to participate the date has been changed due to weather. It's been awhile since I've heard about any cleanup there though. I usually take a few bags with me whenever I go up to shoot and pick up as much trash as I can fit in the trunk of my Saab, which isn't a whole lot. But as everyone who's been there knows, it really doesn't make much of a dent.

    I haven't been to the northern spot, but hope to check it out soon, and would be willing to participate in an organized cleanup there also. I'm also volunteering the services of my two oldest sons to help.

    :cool:

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    How the last lefthand cleanup occured is that over on the Co4x4 forum, they were bitching about the cleanup that the wheelers had to do of shooters. With a few days notice, the CO AR15 board had people showing up to the cleanup.

    Is the question "When will the 4x4 guys have a cleanup day that we can participate in?".

    Maybe we (the shooting community) should be more proactive since it was someone shooting that caused the fire? If someone could get with the forest service and arrange dumpsters like the 4x4 guys have, then the shooting community could invite them? Sadly, right now I cannot volunteer to do this as my work schedule has me travelling around quite a bit and from week to week (sometimes day to day) I don;t know when and where I will be. For example, next weekend will I be in Colorado, Florida, or Germany? I don;t really know yet. I find out tomarrow where I will be this week (and next week).

    As long as I am in town, I am game for a cleanup!!

    -Dana

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanaT

    Maybe we (the shooting community) should be more proactive since it was someone shooting that caused the fire?

    -Dana

    Which fire?


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    If someone could get with the forest service and arrange dumpsters like the 4x4 guys have, then the shooting community could invite them?
    -Dana
    This just in from KKTV online:

    Shooting Range Turning Into A Landfill?
    Colorado Springs
    Lauri Martin
    A rainbow of shotgun shells blankets the ground and this is only the beginning of it. Broken glass, empty boxes and even a pillow are scattered across the Rampart Range Road Shooting Range.
    It’s a beautiful view until it's tainted by the trash left behind from shooters. Trash is waist deep in some places and the U.S. Forest Service says the range is turning into a landfill. “That pretty much takes out the beauty of it,” Prosper Biauce, a tourist said.
    The litter has been an ongoing issue since the range opened up 16 years ago. Because of that, there are questions about its future. "We need to move toward a more managed facility, with that comes established hours and a possible fee to use the facility," Frank Landis, U.S. Forest Service said. He also said that shutting the range down would be a last resort.
    There will be volunteers cleaning up the range on Saturday, April 29th from 9am until 2pm. Volunteers are wanted.

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    Great news.

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    I'm going to do my best to be there, anyone else?

    Now the question is, How do I get there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg H.
    I'm going to do my best to be there, anyone else?

    Now the question is, How do I get there ?
    You hitch a ride with me.

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    listen fellas, we have 2-3 weeks of notice for this.... If you care anything about this range, which i know most do, man up and donate at least an hour to the preservation of the free range. come on out on the 29th, we all know its less like work when more people are helping out, so why dont we all meet up someplace around 8am, meet somewhere on that side of town, have some coffe, meet and greet kinda thing, and caravan up there?

    No set time limit for how long ya stay, so lets show some support!

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