I ruined dinner

[mcantar18c]

Ugh... my aunt is in town, staying at my grandmother's. I was over working on her car and when I finished my grandma invited me to stay for dinner.
Short version: I called my aunt a libtard and left before I'd gotten 3 bites in.




Long version (venting my frustrations):
My aunt (actually my great-aunt) is from Israel. My mom's dad's side of the family... she's my grandpas sister and is visiting cause he's not doing to well. She has a son a few years younger than me who is about to start his term with the military (required in Israel, as I'm sure you know). Said son is coming into town on Wednesday, and I figured I'd take him shooting (what 18 year old, military-bound male wouldn't enjoy shooting stuff with his cousin?). So I mentioned this to his mom.... bad idea.
Aunt: "So Gabe is gonna be here on Wednesday."
Me: "Yup, I've heard. I'm gonna take him shooting on Thursday, I think he'd enjoy it."
"Oh God what? No, please don't. Don't even mention it to him, I don't want him going hunting or shooting or anything like that."
"Uh... why not?"
"Cause... I don't want him around guns. They're dangerous and.... he could get hurt and..... accidents can---"
(cutting her off) "Accidents? No such thing. Ignorance with guns can lead to unfortunate consequences, just like driving a vehicle, but I can guarantee if he's around me that won't happen."
"Well... I just don't want him doing it, ok?"
"He's going into the military... where his competency with a firearm will be the deciding factor in whether he comes home or not. Not to mention, he's over 18 and can go out to a firing range and on his own accord and rent any gun he wants to... without your permission."
"Yeah I know in the military he'll be shooting, but that's different."
"How is that different? Believe me, its much safer for him to be shooting with MY guns, with me, in a big field with nobody around, than it is for him to be shooting in a line with a bunch of other people with guns that have no idea how to use them."
"Well.... its just dangerous and I don't want him playing with them."
"Dangerous? No. Guns aren't dangerous... they're inanimate objects, no more dangerous than this fork. Irresponsible people can use them to cause harm, but guns don't have minds of their own and you know damn well I'm not an irresponsible person."
"Guns shoot people, forks don't."
"Guns don't shoot people, people shoot people. Not only can I kill you with this fork, but a fork kills quietly and you wouldn't have any idea what's coming because it's not a threatening object. Should we ban forks? Should we sell them exclusively in fork stores where you need to pass a background check before you can buy one?"
"No that's ridiculous."
"Oh really now. So if its ridiculous for forks, why is it reasonable for guns?"
"Well...."
"And on top of that, our right to the unrestricted ownership of firearms is exclusively protected by our Constitution. I know this doesn't apply to Israel, but it doesn't matter... quite frankly, being an Israeli citizen, your ideas about guns kinda surprise me. You live in a country surrounded by people that absolutely hate you and want to wipe you from the face of the planet. From the time your country was founded, war has been a way of life for the people living in it. You should be encouraging your son to get as much practice with a firearm as he can, not teaching him the back-asswards libtard mindset of being afraid of them."
Then my grandma chimes in: "He's right. I don't like guns either, but he's right."
My aunt just kinda stared at me with an expression like I'd just killed and gutted her cat right in front of her, and I was pretty pissed off, so I picked up my plate and thanked my grandma for dinner and told her I'd return her plate and silverware next week, and left.

[Byte Stryke]

If you don't stand up for what you believe in, people will walk all over you.

Bravo
[Applause]

[mcantar18c]

Oh don't worry I'm still planning on taking him shooting. I'll leave it to him whether or not to tell his mom, I personally don't care either way.

There's nothing in her past I don't know about, and nothing that should give her this opinion on guns. The only reason she thinks this, is cause that's the general belief that other libtards hold so she has to think the same thing. She has a picture of Obama on her front door, for God's sake :facepalm:

Yeah, I probably shoulda left well enough alone, but I was in that mood and I have a lot of built up annoyance towards her for all the stupid shit she does.

[TFOGGER]

I feel your pain. I've often failed to engage the brain to mouth filter in social situations . I'd like to think I'm getting better about this as I get older, but I'm probably not...

[Colorado Luckydog]

You need to settle down and try hard not to hurt anyone with your Grandma's fork until you return it back to her safe.

Sometimes, standing up for what you believe in is hardest with your family. Good job. I hope you get to take him shooting.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

^^^^^ What Luckydog said!! And get her some Prozac!! That will chill her out! It did my Aunt!

[2008f450]

Your aunt sounds like my step mom. she was held up many years ago by a guy with his hand in a coat pocket. she never saw a gun just assumed. ever since then all guns are bad. But after the Northridge earthquake when I produced a 12 ga to protect us she was ok with it for a while. I say stand up for what you believe. Just do it in a respectful understandable way. Let them be the raving loon about their point of view. I say you did the right thing. Good on you.

[Monky]

I work in an office full of Libtards.. I offend them daily. Especially when I open carry in the office.. it's great

[spyder]

General rule of thumb. Don't talk politics with family. Extends to religion, and things like firearms. If she said "please don't" I'd have asked "why?" and left it at that, no elaboration, and I'd have never said I wouldn't. Then I would have taken him shooting and told him not to mention it to his mother.

Sometimes you don't know peoples backgrounds. It's better to let things go and not cause family rifts that bring up stuff... you will never change their minds anyway.

Tell you what though, I don't call him out on his firearm P.O.V. It's the wrong opinion to have, but he is personally justified to have his opinion.

I think fox hit it on the head here.

[BigMat]

YOUR GRANDMA ALLOWS FORKS AT THE DINNER TABLE!!!

Why even have a conversation with a monster like you, just waiting to stab someone to be sure, four stabs per jab even! We call them super-knives over here!


I've had to keep my gun under lock and key and constant supervision to keep it from getting out and shooting up stuff, can't trust em to be sure, sneaky little devils.


My dad allowed me at the adult table when I was a kid/teenager because I had no sense of control and loved arguing with liberals and had some training at it (debate team). He loved watching me piss off the neighbors.