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    Default AZ immigration laws

    First (disclaimer) I am against illegal immigration and as such will never give business to any company/contractor that cannot prove me that their employee are in this country legally (work permit, green cards). I once, send back home a full roofing crew because they could not show me their GC.

     

    Now as a US citizen, I am just wondering, in light of the new laws in Arizona: how do you prove you are a US citizen?

    Where does it show on the only documents that you and I are carrying today that we are indeed US citizens?

    Drivers License? nope, can have one with a visa that may have expired…

    Social security card? No picture on it...

    Do we now have to carry a passport everywhere we go?

    I find it disturbing that nobody is thinking how much more government control we are going to experience with this kind of law.
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    Government-issued barcode, tattooed on each citizen's throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by al-x View Post
    Government-issued barcode, tattooed on each citizen's throat.
    Woohoo! End times! I'll get my MREs and ammo!

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    If the police run a drivers license can they get that info????? I don't know, just popped into my head. But as a consumer, you are right, there is no way to tell if you are using the services of a business that hires illegals.

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    For starters deport anybody that cannot speak English.
    I learned it BEFORE moving here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    For starters deport anybody that cannot speak English.
    I learned it BEFORE moving here.
    That would be one way to know they didn't go through the proper citizenship process since English is a requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    For starters deport anybody that cannot speak English.
    I learned it BEFORE moving here.
    Ok. But, what if I am a canadian spy? And I have some Cajun friends that would be deported on the spot....
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    i know...first CLOSE AND SECURE ALL BORDERS. INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.


    NORTHERN BORDER, SOUTHERN BORDER. PACIFIC OCEAN FRONTAGE, ATLANTIC OCEAN FRONTAGE, GULF OF MEXICO AND ANY OTHER BORDER WE HAVE. All container ships coming or going. check all cargo. all of it. period. use the troops we pull out of iraq and afghanistan. now. right now.

    then we start cleaning out the ones allready here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    For starters deport anybody that cannot speak English.
    I learned it BEFORE moving here.
    Yeah that's an idea... Too bad there's plenty of legal alien residents who can't speak English yet. Sure, let's deport them. Glad you weren't around when my Mom was trying to learn to read and write English way back when. Not everyone has the luxury of learning the language BEFORE coming here. Are you trying to say my Mom is somehow less deserving of the citizenship she earned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    That would be one way to know they didn't go through the proper citizenship process since English is a requirement.
    Except for those who are here legally but not citizens. And starting the citizenship processes doesn't require proficiency, just finishing it does.

    AZ's attempt to enforce immigration controls is a colossal waste of time and resources since a state has no real authority to enforce immigration controls. Again, this is a federal problem. All this will do is start ensnaring people who happen to fit a certain racial profile. The only real thing that can prove citizenship on the spot is carrying around your original birth certificate or naturalisation papers. And no one is required to do that just to move around the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post

    AZ's attempt to enforce immigration controls is a colossal waste of time and resources since a state has no real authority to enforce immigration controls. Again, this is a federal problem. All this will do is start ensnaring people who happen to fit a certain racial profile. The only real thing that can prove citizenship on the spot is carrying around your original birth certificate or naturalisation papers. And no one is required to do that just to move around the country.
    no, the colossal waste is the resources that governments at the state and local level have to expend to deal with all the problems that illegal immigrants bring with them.

    people who are so vehemently opposed to this effort, calling it racist, because they know it will work.

    cry about oppression all you like, illegal is illegal.

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