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    Default ATF: Gun in US agent's death traced to Texas man

    DALLAS—Three people suspected of smuggling guns to Mexico were arrested in a Dallas suburb on Monday after federal investigators traced the gun used in the killing of a U.S. agent in Mexico to one of them, officials said.

    Agents of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives arrested the suspected gun smugglers in morning raids in the southern Dallas suburb of Lancaster, Texas, ATF spokesman Tom Crowley said. Crowley referred questions on other details to the U.S. Justice Department in Washington. A department spokeswoman said no statement was planned for Monday. The ATF said the gun was used in a Feb. 15 shooting of two federal agents who were driving on a highway near the northern city of San Luis Potosi on Feb. 15. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata was killed and agent Victor Avila was wounded.

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    Why, sure it was...

    Anyone ever see any actual proof of these "traces"?

    Not buying what they're selling!
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    Now the question is, were these Americans or people living in America?
    One I care about.... the latter, they can do as they please with them, legit "traces" or not.

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    I call BS on it being the gun used in the shootings.

    we all want to cut federal funding/spending....start it with the ATF.
    All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break em for no one.

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    If they found the gun used in the shooting (was it left at the scene?) then they could run the serial number through the NICS database (you know, the registry of guns and gun owners that the 1986 FOPA made illegal but you know they maintain) then you could find the last person to purchase the gun from a dealer.

    So basically when they find these guns they can find the last LAW ABIDING CITIZEN that owned the gun and they can crucify him (you know that makes them happier than finding a genuine criminal)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    If they found the gun used in the shooting (was it left at the scene?) then they could run the serial number through the NICS database (you know, the registry of guns and gun owners that the 1986 FOPA made illegal but you know they maintain) then you could find the last person to purchase the gun from a dealer.

    So basically when they find these guns they can find the last LAW ABIDING CITIZEN that owned the gun and they can crucify him (you know that makes them happier than finding a genuine criminal)
    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

    Never let the facts get in the way... Another good reason to not have your name associated with a firearm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

    Never let the facts get in the way... Another good reason to not have your name associated with a firearm.

    I am appalled you guys own guns. I thought we were all peace loving pot smokin hippies
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    Oh $hiat! I forgot. Ohm ohm ohm




    I can just imagine the poor suburbanite, sitting in his Lazy Boy watching Jeopardy, when the ATF comes through the front door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Why, sure it was...

    Anyone ever see any actual proof of these "traces"?

    Not buying what they're selling!

    A few years ago I had a call on a gun I used to own. It had been recovered at a crime scene. I'd bought it new, didn't like it, traded it to another dealer for a different gun. That dealer had let it go out the back door without ever logging it in. I had receipts for both transactions.

    Don't see what the big deal is. Straw purchases are illegal. If this was the case (and it appears it is), I applaud the ATF for enforcing our existing laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Why, sure it was...

    Anyone ever see any actual proof of these "traces"?

    Not buying what they're selling!

    A few years ago I had a call on a gun I used to own. It had been recovered at a crime scene. I'd bought it new, didn't like it, traded it to another dealer for a different gun. That dealer had let it go out the back door without ever logging it in. I had receipts for both transactions.

    Break the law, go to jail. I don't see what the big deal is?

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