Rex Fowler found guilty

[Irving]

I just now read the article. Holy shit.

After reading the article, I DO remember hearing about this, because it happened in an area that I drive through TWICE a day, Monday through Friday. When it happened, I remember that Swat had everything shut down, and my fiancee called her mother to lock the doors at their house (where our daughter goes during the day) because we thought some random killer was on the loose.

This is a crazy story.

[weirjf]

messed up

[Not_A_Llama]

Did you hear anything with regard to the Scientology angle?

[Byte Stryke]

Mind you I am not arguing for or against the case, Simply making a statement against the ignorance of firearms.

And don't forget that the first trigger pull was to load a bullet into the chamber."

Stupid fucking statements like this are why cases get dismissed. now they will find a Gun Expert to testify at an appeal that the prosecution mislead the jury with false statements. If you don't know what in the hell you are talking about either get educated or shut the Hell up. What ever you do... don't go spouting fairy tales and make believe and misleading the damn jury.

[OneGuy67]

It really wouldn't have mattered in this particular case. His defense attorney didn't disagree Fowler killed the guy; the argument was for a lesser 2nd Degree Murder charge only. The prosecution wanted 1st Degree, which would have put him in prison for life without parole and his attorney wanted 2nd, which would have only been 15 or so years and then parole. The whole argument is over deliberationand intent.

Did Fowler think about killing the guy before he came to the business to pick up his check, or was it the heat of the moment at the time and he grabbed a gun and shot him? That was the whole issue here.

[Byte Stryke]

It really wouldn't have mattered in this particular case. His defense attorney didn't disagree Fowler killed the guy; the argument was for a lesser 2nd Degree Murder charge only. The prosecution wanted 1st Degree, which would have put him in prison for life without parole and his attorney wanted 2nd, which would have only been 15 or so years and then parole. The whole argument is over deliberationand intent.

Did Fowler think about killing the guy before he came to the business to pick up his check, or was it the heat of the moment at the time and he grabbed a gun and shot him? That was the whole issue here.

Seriously, I Saw a rape case thrown out because in the prosecutors notes he wrote discriminatory remarks.
these notes were subpoenaed, he was released after a Mistrial with prejudice was declared.
Ignorance is only a defense if its the people that wield it.

[Irving]

Did you hear anything with regard to the Scientology angle?

No, we didn't know anything about the Scientology stuff until we got home and read the articles.

Mind you I am not arguing for or against the case, Simply making a statement against the ignorance of firearms.


Stupid fucking statements like this are why cases get dismissed. now they will find a Gun Expert to testify at an appeal that the prosecution mislead the jury with false statements. If you don't know what in the hell you are talking about either get educated or shut the Hell up. What ever you do... don't go spouting fairy tales and make believe and misleading the damn jury.

I thought she looked pretty dumb and was openly groaning during her closing argument.

The defense took the angle that since the police officer admitted to contaminating the scene, and that how he didn't know how one of the bullets ended up where it did, that there was a great chance that any scene diagrams are incorrect as well. That was her whole angle. It was mostly well presented, but toward the end she (defense counsel) really started pulling at straws and showing her own ignorance of firearm stuff.

I'm just telling this to point out that what you said is true, and they tried to get a lesser charge in this case based off of potentially incorrect investigation and assumptions by the prosecutors based on those investigation results.

[weirjf]

No, we didn't know anything about the Scientology stuff until we got home and read the articles.



I thought she looked pretty dumb and was openly groaning during her closing argument.

The defense took the angle that since the police officer admitted to contaminating the scene, and that how he didn't know how one of the bullets ended up where it did, that there was a great chance that any scene diagrams are incorrect as well. That was her whole angle. It was mostly well presented, but toward the end she (defense counsel) really started pulling at straws and showing her own ignorance of firearm stuff.

I'm just telling this to point out that what you said is true, and they tried to get a lesser charge in this case based off of potentially incorrect investigation and assumptions by the prosecutors based on those investigation results.

Their defense antics are the same reason people are against citizens being able to carry guns. They think that because we can defend ourselves that when it actually happens... it ends up like the grocery store scene in "Wanted" with bullets flying everywhere and hollywood explosions.

[Byte Stryke]

Their defense antics are the same reason people are against citizens being able to carry guns. They think that because we can defend ourselves that when it actually happens... it ends up like the grocery store scene in "Wanted" with bullets flying everywhere and hollywood explosions.

Exploding Doritos FTW!