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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    I told you people...those who wanted social norms implemented into the military regimen.

    You wouldn't believe the amount of non-ops training that is required now that everyone has to sit through. Rape awareness and reporting, cultural sensitivity (not theirs, ours), suicide prevention, code of conduct, conduct of war, code of war, anti-terrorism online, SERE online (a video game), etc. These are the ones on top of my head that we've had to do this past few months.
    +1. My traditional guardsmen barely got to do their jobs, there was so much. They certainly were not, and could not be in the time allowed, fully trained to do their jobs. And there was nothing they, or we, could do about it. It's criminal when there is so much garbage that military personnel cannot perform what is supposedly their primary function. And it's gotten to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMRICO View Post
    Poof Boys wanting their lady-rights and Crying that they dont have Lady GaGa cadence for there morning walk around the park holding hands!

    Thats just one funny ass mental picture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanls19 View Post
    42nd Infantry.

    Really we have already been told to treat infantry as if they aren't gay for many years, but now having actual gay guys will be a horse of a different color.
    Oh, this is SOOOOO +100!

    I'm just wondering if the gays will have to cover their faces when in Muslim theaters... So let's add a few things up (not hatin', just sayin') - our primary theaters are Muslim dominated nations who strongly object to us having women in the military already (second class sub-humans), now we have a bunch of openly gay soldiers too (the evil of all evils).

    Do we really need to give these folks even MORE reasons to gun down our boys (and girls, and whatchamodoozit can't decides)? I always figured that I served with guys who putt from the rough but nobody really knew it, now that they can flaunt it and be openly gay I just thank my lucky stars that I'm out now.

    Last I heard, homosexuals represented less than 2% of our citizens yet we seem to be spending 50% of OUR attention giving THEM attention. That just doesn't add up. I accepted Don't Ask Don't Tell but whatever, this is ridiculous to pull soldiers off duty to tell them "please don't shoot your queer squaddies".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMRICO View Post
    Lady GaGa cadence for there morning walk around the park holding hands!
    Like this?


    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Haw haw haw?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanls19 View Post
    Like this?



    thats f*ck*ng gay ...(holding back vomit)

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    Half of what you do in the military is some sort of Sensitivity training, hopefully they'll throw it in with the racial, muslim, and whatever the PC flavor of the day is. So it doesnt take up that much of there time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    fuck those homos.
    Only if they think you're cute, Sniper.

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    I don't see what the big deal is. This training will take like one hour. You have to go through the same dumb training for every other job you get in your life; and it is like an hour lecture about not gabbing asses and talking about sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I don't see what the big deal is. This training will take like one hour. You have to go through the same dumb training for every other job you get in your life; and it is like an hour lecture about not gabbing asses and talking about sex.
    When you add up all the one hour training requirements, toss in the half day training requirements, along with any that take a day, it becomes extremely burdensome. When every area that thinks their piece of the operation needs training and certification decides everyone HAS to have training, along with a nice test and certificate at the end, it becomes burdensome. You have to remember that most, if not all, of these requirements are annual recurring requirements. Best not to criticize that you have not directly had to deal with.

    Think of it this way - my traditionals got about 24 8 hour days a year. Take out the day for the Christmas party, any time for commander's calls (usually at least 2 hours each), requirements to go do a piss test, any friggen' details they got called off to do, and all of the training requirements like the one we're talking about here (and there are quite a few of them) and my folks had maybe 12 8 hour days in which to get or stay proficient at a fairly difficult technical job. Then add another hour's worth of training when someone gets a hair up their butt. Oh, and add the half hour to walk over to where the training is to be 10 minutes early so you can get a seat. Then walk back to your shop and try to pick back up where you left off. It doesn't take long to waste a hell of a lot of time doing crap like that. They are expected to be able to deploy and do their jobs alongside people who do the job every single day, but they can't because the training they get is how to be sensitive to others, about the culture in some other country, about sexual harassment, and now about gays in the military. Bottom line, too damn much BS training preventing people from being able to do their jobs; too many distractions; too much crap.
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    Yeah, but my point is that this is a requirement for any new changes to any place, not even just the military. It's not like gays in the military is the ONLY thing that produced extra training.

    I haven't been in the military, but you dare tell me that I don't have experience sitting in meetings all day long for stuff that doesn't even directly effect me, all while work is just piling up back at my desk. I'm no stranger to the concept of having a meeting, just to plan another meeting.

    I'm trying to point out that it is pretty feeble to try and say, "See? I knew this was a bad idea." Just because there will be some training or a meeting as a side product.
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