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    I'm just glad no one is taking McCain seriously in his desire to train and arm yet another group of unemployed illiterate muslims in a third (fourth?) world country.

    Also, I'm hoping the US is learning that from now on we need to just go ahead and kill the head of state when we get into a pissing contest. No sense dragging it out for 20-30 years when dealing with men like Saddam and Mommar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    This is what the F-117
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    RIP F-117
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    i dont know the reasoning. but, they need to stay the fuck out. pull all our troops out of iraq and afghanistan and post them at our southern border, our nothern border and the ports. stop all smuggling, human or cargo. and do it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    The only military option that's being discussed is enforcing a no-fly zone. Ghaddafi is using attack fighters and helo's to try and defend Tripoli. This is what the F-117 and F-22 are made for, I'm sure we could burn up a few AGM-78/AGM-88 eating radar sites around Tripoli.

    I'm all for keeping those aging Mirage and Eurocopters sitting on the tarmac. We enforced no-fly over northern and southern Iraq for a decade.

    However, I'm incredibly opposed to putting US military boots on the ground in-country. We need another war in the middle east like we need a hole in the head.

    Oh, and why Libya and not Egypt, Tunisia, Bahrain, Yemen (yet), Saudi Arabia? The answer is easy: Only in Libya is the old power regime using aircraft against the rebels.

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    I'm guessing that's it. An article yesterday mentioned a no fly zone would keep him from bringing in African merc's and doing air strikes. I know about the Iraq no fly zone, I was there. Oh, and the U.N. oil for food rings a bell also, gee that sure worked out!
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    Seems to me, that military involvement is a bad call, in fact any involvement is a bad call.

    I know we want some regimes to end, but more importantly we would want a reasonable "Jordan-ish" friendly reasonable gov't in place. If we go in hot, odds on being popular by the end of it is very low. Very easy for extremists to claim "the evil empire" is toppling poor Muslim Gov'ts and that ends poorly. We aren't well enough loved to do shit now, maybe the UN or the African Union, but not us.

    Beyond my personal opinion that we should bring our young men and women home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB888 View Post


    RIP F-117
    I didn't know they decommissioned them. Sad to see that much cash end up in a scrap heap. I hope they saved a few for museums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I didn't know they decommissioned them. Sad to see that much cash end up in a scrap heap. I hope they saved a few for museums.

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    One remain for R&D. Sad indeed....
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    A start-up of a no-fly zone, against MQ's aircraft, is an act of war, against Libya; buy the very fact that we would have take out MQ's anti-aircraft, and radar batteries on the ground to enforce a very expensive no-fly zone. MQ, is aware of this threat, and up to now, he is using his aircraft to bomb weapons depot's and other military target's, meanwhile, avoiding carpet bombing rebel held cities.

    MQ, has a sizeable pile of mustard gas, but has questionable means of delivering the mustard gas to the target.

    If MQ, uses mustard gas, or carpet bombs the cities, the U.S. will be forced to go in, with: air force, cruise missiles, tanks, artillery, and a U.S. Marine led invasion force, backed up with Osprey's.

    Good luck, to our U.S. Troop's, and our Air and Naval Forces.


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    I thought that is what long range missiles were designed for?

    fuck sending our troops, fuck sending our navy, fuck sending in marines. send them a direct hit to Gadhafi's stronghold and then let them figure it out.

    I am sick of seeing our country wasting our money on other countries problems, sick of us feeling like we owe them a rebuilding after we clean the place up, and sick of others countries standing by doing nothing but taking in more of our tax payer funds.

    the powers at be better figure this out quick or before long this same kind of shit might be happening right here in the US.


    oh, and bring the troops home for the forsaken middle east, level the sand pit with some serious firepower including nukes. thousands of years of fighting will not be solved by the US coming in and telling the different groups to shake hands and let their women vote and have rights. anyone who believes this should take their "coexist" sticker, light it on fire, and shove it up their ass.
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    If the rebels had some of these missiles...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qHL7jET8Gc

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERNO View Post
    If MQ, uses mustard gas, or carpet bombs the cities, the U.S. will be forced to go in, with: air force, cruise missiles, tanks, artillery, and a U.S. Marine led invasion force, backed up with Osprey's.
    Our troops don't need their air support crashing into the ground.
    But yes, when he starts pulling a Saddam on his people we'll be going in.

    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I thought that is what long range missiles were designed for?
    No, that's what OGA's are for.

    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    If the rebels had some of these missiles...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qHL7jET8Gc
    If the rebels could afford some of those missiles, they may as well just buy their way into power.

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