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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    fuck it, I'm out before I even begin.

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    probably the best idea. the whole concept of us in Libya has not reason or purpose, and accordingly most posts, including mine will be based on that same premise. might not make sense or be logistical, but damnit, I would love to see it happen.
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    March 23, 2011

    The Honorable Barack Obama
    President of the United States

    The White House
    Washington, D.C. 20500

    Dear Mr. President:

    I have read your letter to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate dated March 21, 2011 concerning your order that United States Armed Forces attack the nation of Libya. You cite the authority of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 and your “constitutional
    authority to conduct U.S. foreign relations and as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive.”


    The Constitution clearly and unmistakably vests Congress with the sole prerogative “to declare war.” Your letter fails to explain how a resolution of the United Nations Security Council is necessary to commit this nation to war but that an act of Congress is not.

    The United Nations Participation Act expressly withholds authorization for the President to commit United States Armed Forces to combat in pursuit of United Nations directives without specific Congressional approval. The War Powers Resolution states that the President’s power to engage United States Armed Forces in hostilities “shall not be inferred . . .from any treaty heretofore or hereafter ratified unless such treaty is implemented by legislation specifically authorizing the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities…”


    The War Powers Resolution unambiguously defines three circumstances under which the President as Commander in Chief may order United States Armed Forces into hostile action: “(1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.” Your letter cites none of these conditions.
    Nor can the power to order an act of war be inferred from the President’s authority as “Commander in Chief and Chief Executive.”

    The Constitution’s Framers were explicit on this point. In Federalist 69, Alexander Hamilton draws a sharp distinction between the President’s authority as Commander in Chief as “nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces” and the authority of the British king “which extends to the declaring of war and to the raising and regulating of fleets and armies ~ all which, by the Constitution under consideration, would appertain to the legislature.”

    With all due respect, I can only conclude that your order to United States Armed Forces to attack the nation of Libya on March 19, 2011 is in direct violation of the War Powers Resolution and constitutes a usurpation of Constitutional powers clearly and solely vested in the United States Congress and is accordingly unlawful and unconstitutional.

    Sincerely,
    Tom McClintock
    Member of Congress

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    I must state unmistakeably that I See the use of our armed forces against Libya by Obama as an usurpation of the Constitution of the United States and Federal Law. I Believe it to be a criminal act that must be answered. A Single man has declared war against the nation of Libya unlawfully using the forces of these United States for his personal campaigns.

    The ends do not justify the means.
    It does bother me deeply

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    here's a vid from 07 with biden bitching about bush and talking impeachment for the same thing that obama just did.



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    I copied and pasted that letter and emailed it to the President. Had to chop it down for size though.

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    So now we're going to start arming them according to Clinton. (my summary) 'The UN resolution for airstrikes in our interpretation gives us permission to arm the rebels...'

    That's worked so well for us in the past.. /facepalm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    So now we're going to start arming them according to Clinton. (my summary) 'The UN resolution for airstrikes in our interpretation gives us permission to arm the rebels...'

    That's worked so well for us in the past.. /facepalm.

    Source please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    Source please.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...s-libya-rebels

    "Hillary Clinton has paved the way for the United States to arm the Libyan rebels by declaring that the recent UN security council resolution relaxed an arms embargo on the country."

    I hope and pray those weapons don't end being used against Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrufflerSteve View Post
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...s-libya-rebels

    "Hillary Clinton has paved the way for the United States to arm the Libyan rebels by declaring that the recent UN security council resolution relaxed an arms embargo on the country."

    I hope and pray those weapons don't end being used against Americans.

    Steve
    Yeah I just found that myself ...


    but in the video they don;t show her saying that at all ...

    yes I don't trust the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    Yeah I just found that myself ...


    but in the video they don;t show her saying that at all ...

    yes I don't trust the media.
    Speaking after the conference on Libya in London, Clinton said: "It is our interpretation that [resolution] 1973 amended or overrode the absolute prohibition of arms to anyone in Libya so that there could be legitimate transfer of arms if a country were to choose to do that. We have not made that decision at this time."

    You kids today.. don't want to take time to read

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