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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge
    You shoot to wound, and if they continue to pose a threat, you continue to shoot.
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    Ridge never said he'd shoot to "wound."

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    Personally, i shoot to tickle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMoth View Post
    Personally, i shoot to tickle....
    Good luck tickling anyone with the two pistols that I fondled on Friday.

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    Personally, I would not normally consider involving myself in such a situation, unless there was imminent danger of death. I am not a cop, am not paid to be someone else's security, and lack the cloak of authority to act that a sworn peace officer carries (along with the cadre of city attorneys). What I would do is observe, be as good a witness as possible, and do what I could to alert the police. Should the situation change, and I perceived a significant risk of serious bodily injury or death to myself or another person, I would take whatever action was necessary to stop the threat. If that means the assailant fails to survive, that's an unfortunate, but necessary, consequence.
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    Blunt force trauma to the head is lethal force. End of ****ing story. How the **** do you think people were killing each other for thousands of years of human history BEFORE the last 200 brought the convenience of guns?

    Its disturbing to me that someones brains might be being beaten out their nose and people here would actually stop to think about if the lawyer they have on retainer can cover them for acting.
    And i thought i was a cold mother fucker.

    I'm sure it will be a great consolation to some ones kid or spouse or parent that when the chips were down...
    You pulled out your camera phone, and were a 'good witness'.
    Undoubtedly they will thank you for the brave observations you made that grant them with the privilege of changing the diapers of the person that no longer knows their names for the rest of their short, miserable, and financially draining lives.

    The assailant made their choice when they brought their foot down on some ones head. And I'd still do them the decency of a quick end.

    Some things are worth going to jail for.
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    A brutal ass stomping would qualify as "imminent danger", but I would hate to be the guy that shot someone that was fighting back after being threatened with a knife. A felonious assault is an entirely different situation than a stand up fist fight. Also, stopping the threat does not always mean ventilating someone. If I feel like I can stop the threat without anyone having to be seriously injured (including myself), I will certainly leave that option on the table.
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    Well, put. I thought we were addressing the situation Irving presented. I woudl say that if some one is on the ground being stomped, regardless of if they earned it or not, its no longer self defense on the part of the person doing the stomping.
    I would announce my intent to shoot, and let them have a couple of heart beats to decide if they want the third nostril before i oblige them.

    It can be slippery, but i still feel strongly that i would take immediate action. And have before.
    I took down an active shooter a few years ago, luckily on only the threat of force. Not surprisingly, the people he was shooting at had designs on stomping his guts out as soon as i had him prone'd out.
    They got the same introduction to my side arm he did, because he became my responsibility at that point.

    And before you ask, i was not working in a sworn officer or official capacity. I was a contract boy, that happened to be there at the time.
    Had things gone a different way, and i did have to shoot, i woudl not have regretted my actions, regardless of the outcome.
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    Stomping someone's face while they're on the ground isn't "fighting back"...

    I don't think anyone is suggesting: 1) See guy getting beat 2) draw 3) shoot. Probably a verbal attempt to stop the situation should be in there between 1&2 and 2&3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    ...Probably a verbal attempt to stop the situation should be in there between 1&2 and 2&3.
    One would be foolish not to, of course.

    When else will you get that kind of opportunity to try out your 'tough guy' lines?

    ... i'm just glad no one ever recorded the shit i said on the street...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMoth View Post
    One would be foolish not to, of course.

    When else will you get that kind of opportunity to try out your 'tough guy' lines?

    ... i'm just glad no one ever recorded the shit i said on the street...
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