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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'd probably do some things that others here wouldn't, but I don't want to post it.
    Falling on the floor and screaming like a schoolgirl is a valid option...

    Not that I'm saying you would....

    I think these though exercises are great. If you don't figure out how you'll act in a given situation beforehand, chances are very good you'll fail to do ANYTHING under stress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I think these though exercises are great. If you don't figure out how you'll act in a given situation beforehand, chances are very good you'll fail to do ANYTHING under stress.

    That is basically why I got the shit kicked out of my by two smaller dudes. I tried to talk my way out of a fight with two drugged up dudes looking for trouble, while taking shots to the face the whole time. It was pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    That is basically why I got the shit kicked out of my by two smaller dudes. I tried to talk my way out of a fight with two drugged up dudes looking for trouble, while taking shots to the face the whole time. It was pathetic.
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    Kind of. I got them fixed for free, and one of them chipped again. I really need to have them done again, but I haven't had a job with benefits since shortly after that happened. It is on my list of surgeries to get when I'm gainfully employed again. The second one is Lasik.
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    I definitely want to get Lasik too, and teeth whitening. I'm 24 but my teeth are a few shades more yellow than I'd like them to be. Ever thought about trying kung fu? (serious question, haha)

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    If I had the money and time to dedicate, I'd join T's KO Boxing gym in Wheat Ridge.
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    That's good. I have a strong opinion that unarmed self defense is a very important skill to have.

    If I had seen you in your situation, I would have shot them in the leg. /sarcasm

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    Contrary to Hollywood B.S., shooting to wound is irresponsible. Shooting to kill is indefensible (i.e. executing someone because they deserve it). Shooting to stop is the only justifiable use of deadly force. Wounding and/or death are consequences of shooting to stop, not goals in and of themselves.

    IMO the best stop shot for the average CCP holder is center of mass. Going for the head is a harder shot and if you miss, you own that round and all the downrange consequences of what it does.

    ANY shot you fire will be viewed as application of deadly force by authorities. You better be in a situation in which it is authorized or they will change your life forever in ways you can't imagine.

    I have a friend who killed a meth crazed home invader in Vegas. It was ruled 100% righteous and he was never charged. That didn't change the personal nightmare that he endured until the day he passed.

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    If he killed a meth addict, then he's my friend too.
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    Sorry for the late posting on an old thread but figured I would throw in my two cents.

    This is one of those incidents where you would be covered by the law, if you have a good lawyer and could articulate that you had a reasonable belief you were preventing a serious crime and had no other options. Reasonable being, you are inside 7-11 and see someone walk in, pull a gun on the cashier and say "give me the money or I am going to kill you" you shoot him in the back and I guarantee you have some dipshit lawyer that says, "Well, he said he wanted the money and would only shoot the clerk if he didn't get it" "Why didn't you wait for them to give him the money so he would leave?" You would have to overcome that defense with something you observed that led you to believe shooting and killing this guy was your only option, and that most reasonable people would have interpreted it the same way and acted in a similar fashion.

    Unfortunately, these incidents are not as cut and dry as they seem and god forbid you shoot some scumbag, and his scumbag family comes out of the woodworks saying you killed the only person supporting them, then a sympathetic judge informs you that you just adopted them.

    In Colorado, violent crime is very low in comparison to a lot of places so in a lot of ways, it makes a lot sense to be an excellent witness instead the hero. It is sad to say that is what society has come to but it is an unfortunate truth.

    Just remember, when you are the defendant in a trial, you have to try and talk sense into 12 people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty

    Just my observations..

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