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    I'm all for a flat tax. I think all citizens should pay a percentage of their earnings. Let's say 10% across the board, none of this garbage about the bottom 40% not paying and the top 1% paying the majority, 10% for everyone. I'm also for drilling here in America. We in America have oil wells drilled and setup to pump right now. We can start there and expand. Oh, and that also creates jobs.

    E85 is garbage, less fuel mileage, less power, and an engine has a hard time starting on it in the winter. Only fill up with it (if you choose to) if your vehicles says it can handle it. The reason being it is not compatible with the rubber seals and plastic in the fuel lines and engine components. It will destroy them.

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    I think, after reading it and getting less pissed, we agree with each other-
    I get the impression that you read what I wrote and got the impression I was a socialist. This couldn't be further from the truth. Try reading it thinking I am ultra-conservative.


    I just don't want to fix the economy by only cutting taxes to the rich, that will not fix the deficit, nor bring the poor up. These are the tenets of the theory.

    Laissez-faire with some rules, controlled government size and reduced tax burden for all will help much more. I do realize that you can't cut taxes on the very poor already.

    I said the middle class pays more into the domestic spending, not taxes.

    Try looking at the Walmart thing the other way, do you think there are a lot of people making $20,000 a year walking around Nordstrums, much less buying enough to support the business.

    I agree regarding the poor too, poor people will always be poor, if they choose to, from my experience and people I have known, poverty is more of a result of a state of mind (or a couple of bad habits) than a state of being in all but a few rare instances. In the cases of the rare instance, I am fine with helping out. Single mom types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMat View Post
    I have no doubt, but this doesn't prove trickle down. I think my previous posts covered my view as to why.
    What do you call job creation?

    If they went ahead with there venture they need too ad a new building at there manufacturing facility. They already have the talent to architect it and oversee construction, but they would need to hire construction workers. THey would need specialized equipment to the tune of about $5 million. They would borrow the money, but to get the rate they want they have to put 30% down. To do this requires lots of paperwork and contract negotiation. Their finance department is already swamped, so they might make the decision to hire another financial manager. Once the equipment is in place they will bring over some experienced machinists and operators from the other line, but they need that running at full capacity, so they will hire some new operators. Granted that last part requires customers, but before that there was construction work and several full time positions without a customer's dime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    What do you call job creation?

    If they went ahead with there venture they need too ad a new building at there manufacturing facility. They already have the talent to architect it and oversee construction, but they would need to hire construction workers. THey would need specialized equipment to the tune of about $5 million. They would borrow the money, but to get the rate they want they have to put 30% down. To do this requires lots of paperwork and contract negotiation. Their finance department is already swamped, so they might make the decision to hire another financial manager. Once the equipment is in place they will bring over some experienced machinists and operators from the other line, but they need that running at full capacity, so they will hire some new operators. Granted that last part requires customers, but before that there was construction work and several full time positions without a customer's dime.

    Sorry William, I've had this discussion 3 times, I'm done with it. My opinions are all out there in previous posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMat View Post

    It is just backward entitlement-
    I am poor, I need your money (in handouts) so you feel better
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    I am rich, I need your money (in tax breaks) so you feel better
    same thing- different dress


    hehe a rich man getting a tax break is the same as a poor man getting a hand out?

    okie dokie.

    when a rich man says "I need your money" just who is he talking to and what money is he talking about?

    (above question is rhetorical)

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