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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I don't mind all the new marijuana legalization. Really, I don't. I think it should all be legal without all the stupid restrictions.
    Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is IMO. No, it doesn't have the same exact effects as alcohol does, but like alcohol it effects your judgement, perception, reaction time, etc. and is just as easily abused. I say legalize it, restrict it to 21+, and put a heavy tax on it. Eliminating the "stupid restrictions" is just plain dumb... I don't want somebody getting tanked at a bar and driving home for the sake of everybody else on the road, why would I be ok with somebody getting stoned off their ass and getting behind the wheel?


    Stoners. Another pet peeve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is IMO. No, it doesn't have the same exact effects as alcohol does, but like alcohol it effects your judgement, perception, reaction time, etc. and is just as easily abused. I say legalize it, restrict it to 21+, and put a heavy tax on it. Eliminating the "stupid restrictions" is just plain dumb... I don't want somebody getting tanked at a bar and driving home for the sake of everybody else on the road, why would I be ok with somebody getting stoned off their ass and getting behind the wheel?


    Stoners. Another pet peeve.
    What a cop out you are. "and put a heavy tax on it" Really? Why?

    You think making laws about keeping dispensaries a certain distance from schools, or out of certain towns, or restrictions on how many plants a grower can grow at a time, have anything to do with people driving stoned?

    EDIT: I had to edit my post. I don't think you are a coward, I think you are a cop out. Just tax it, just tax it. Jesus Christ, no wonder the government acts like the mafia, people are standing up and begging for it.
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    It'd be the same kind of tax put on alcohol and tobacco. And yeah, treating marijuana (both the use and the abuse of) like alcohol would be a good way to go about it IMO.
    The way I see it, stoners and druggies are gonna get their fix anyway, legal or not. So why not regulate it like we do alcohol and tobacco and collect a tax on it, Lord knows our economy could use it and while I'm all for lowering taxes on shit people actually need (gas, food, income, etc.), marijuana does NOT fall into that category.

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    Why would you be okay with taxing anything higher than any other commodity? You just figure that since you don't smoke cigarettes, that it's okay for the gov to tax the product at a rate higher than the cost of the product itself? I don't smoke, but I don't think it's okay to be put in federal prison for growing your own tobacco.

    As far as I know by the way, there aren't really even any laws about driving while high. I mean, there are laws, but they aren't any where near as strict as the alcohol laws are. We're talking about this issue from two different sides here. I'm talking about stupid laws regulating the industry. There are Trillions of dollars to be made by marijuana in the private market, but the government can't accept the idea of letting an unpopular market go without being harassed and meddled with. The government has even considered legalization of marijuana until states started going bankrupt and they saw a way to easy their financial woes.
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    The way that politicians seem to feel about marijuana dispensaries, is the way that I feel about the payday loan, check cashing, and Rent-A-Center places that litter every commercially zoned area of the US. They are a cancer on the country. I still wouldn't want to see bogus regulation or higher taxes on them though. The government shouldn't be stealing money from people who make choices that not everyone agrees with. That'd be like the voters who voted for the losing party, paying higher taxes during the whole term of the winning party. You don't want Federal health care? Well that is a poor decision that negatively affects those around you (in our opinion), so you're getting an increase in your taxes this year. Call it an....Ideological Sin Tax if you will. You can disagree with us if you want, but it's going to cost you to stay on that path. Pure insanity.


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    Ok...most recent pet peeve:

    Those of you that have been to my shop know that parking is rather limited.

    This morning, one of the employees of one of the other businesses in my building parks his brand new Mustang in not one, but TWO of the parking spaces normally reserved for my customers.

    I get that he is protective of his car, and that he has to park it somewhere. What burns my a$$ is that he not only takes up 2 parking spaces that are not allocated to his employer, but that they are in the middle of the block allocated to me. With empty spaces on the far side to boot. Why can't he just park in ONE friggin space?!? A$$hat....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB888 View Post
    Call the tow truck!
    I don't really wanna piss said bozo off. I might do something a little more subtle, like parking my POS F250 about 2 inches from his driver's door...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Why would you be okay with taxing anything higher than any other commodity? You just figure that since you don't smoke cigarettes, that it's okay for the gov to tax the product at a rate higher than the cost of the product itself? I don't smoke, but I don't think it's okay to be put in federal prison for growing your own tobacco.

    As far as I know by the way, there aren't really even any laws about driving while high. I mean, there are laws, but they aren't any where near as strict as the alcohol laws are. We're talking about this issue from two different sides here. I'm talking about stupid laws regulating the industry. There are Trillions of dollars to be made by marijuana in the private market, but the government can't accept the idea of letting an unpopular market go without being harassed and meddled with. The government has even considered legalization of marijuana until states started going bankrupt and they saw a way to easy their financial woes.
    Like I said, need vs want. I go through a can of Copenhagen every day and a half or so, and Lord knows I love my beer and whiskey. But as much as I enjoy my vices, I don't need them... nobody does. If I had to pay $4 a can instead of $3 a can for my Cope just for taxes, and the gov lowered their tax per gal of fuel so it only costs me $140 instead of $160 to fill up, or lowered income tax so we get a little bit more on our paychecks, I'd be pretty happy with that. Point is I'm not saying raise taxes on shit I don't agree with, I fall into that category too. I'm saying add marijuana to the same category we put alcohol and tobacco in with the same high taxes we have on them now, and the added revenue the gov collects will be nothing but beneficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I don't really wanna piss said bozo off. I might do something a little more subtle, like parking my POS F250 about 2 inches from his driver's door...
    that sounds good or getting his ass towed i would be good with either
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