Obama: We must seek agreement on gun reforms

[FireMoth]

Common sense would seem to me that since criminals, by definition break laws, that then any law restricting arms simply removes a law abiding citizens ability to defend themselves from said criminals.

So, in short, we have a 'common sense' gun law. The second amendment to the constitution.

Frankly, i think we should take this posture, and run with it. Whats 'common sense' about a pistol being more restricted than a rifle? whats common sense about restricting hearing protection in the form of sound suppressors? whats common sense about making it illegal to put a vertical fore grip on a pistol?

If we start going after common sense gun laws, we'll have to reverse almost all the gun related legislation since 1935

I'm all for that

[ghettodub]

"Shall not be infringed."

There is no middle ground, nor any "common sense" law when it comes to gun regulation.

agreed. I spent some time reading it, and the NRAs response.

[Tweety Bird]

sooo, what is bad about anything said in that article? . . .

For a start, how about THIS little tidbit from his piehole:

"we should in fact reward the states that provide the best data - and therefore do the most to protect our citizens. . ."

Reward? How? Is he talking about taking money from one state and giving it to another if they do as HE wants?

Best Data? What the hell does THAT mean?

And lastly, how does providing the "best data" protect our citizens?

[BPTactical]

Bottom line- we cannot allow this administration to infringe any further whatsoever on OUR Rights.
If we do they will not stop.
We also need to watch our Governor VERY closely on this issue as well.

The only defense we have is a well organized response. $20.00 to each of your 2A defense organizations may be very well spent about now.......

[newracer]

If Obama gets re-elected we will see some serious anti-firearm laws drafted. Not before then though.

[FireMoth]

He's counting on the Japanese nuke plant radiation contaminating sea life and giving rise to Godzilla, whos presence will disturb the cosmic continuum and summon gamora from the stars.
The hope is, they will duke it out in the middle east, and Obama can lament the nuclear waste land created by the rubbery monsters, instead of having to take responsibility for it.
Which is more or less his political policy.

So, you see, playing the back 9 is all just part of 'hope'...

[Clint45]

Best Data? What the hell does THAT mean?

And lastly, how does providing the "best data" protect our citizens?

"Best data" no doubt means most intrusive and complete acquisition of all available data on each individual citizen.

It does very little to protect citizens. The feds have been able to compile vast amounts of electronic data on individuals whom they had a specific interest in very quickly when necessary. Obama wants all law abiding citizens to be subject to the same intense scrutiny as suspected terrorists whenever they attempt to purchase a firearm or apply for a permit. Simply having a clean criminal history is no longer good enough, it would seem.

Maybe they want to see your school, medical, driving and financial records before approving your purchase. "I would like to sell you this shotgun, but I see that you flunked 9th grade Algebra twice and declared bankruptcy ten years ago. Plus you got a ticket last year for parking next to a fire hydrant. I think you are obviously far too irresponsible to own a firearm, and the amount of time you spend looking at porn on the internet shows that you are clearly of substandard morals as well. This application is denied!"

[Clint45]

"Shall not be infringed."

There is no middle ground, nor any "common sense" law when it comes to gun regulation.

Tell that to: Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts. May as well add DC, California, and Rhode Island to the list as well.

[Irving]

Tell that to: Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts. May as well add DC, California, and Rhode Island to the list as well.

You mean every state in the union. The second gun law ever made went too far.

[Clint45]

You mean every state in the union. The second gun law ever made went too far.

I am probably in the minority here as I feel there should be some sort of basic licensure requirement for concealed carry permits of handguns over .32 caliber.

I feel that long guns of all types and low powered pocket pistols should be completely unregulated, but if someone wants to carry a concealed hi-cap 9mm or .50AE Desert Eagle to the nightclub on a Saturday night I would feel a lot better about it if he had passed a background check and took a 3 hour course which taught him not to fire into crowds, leave his loaded weapon unsecured, or shoot himself in the foot. I've met dozens of individuals who carried concealed handguns who didn't even seem to know the most basic firearm safety rules.

Any license, once granted, would be non-expiring and valid in all 50 states, federal lands, and US territories. I think that would solve a lot of problems and restore rights to those currently residing in totalitarian states who want to make it a felony to leave your house with a handgun or order a hi-cap magazine in the mail.