We need to organize an open carry day in Loveland and surrounding towns

[colocowboy01]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...74/detail.html

This is a news story about a guy who was stopped and temporarily had his firearm and ammunition taken from him in a park in Loveland. I think we all in the Northern Colorado area need to organize a reoccurring open carry day in Loveland. It could be educational for the public and empowering for those gun owning friends of ours would have never open carried.

I thought it was funny that the news article stated that, "Miller accused police of violating his constitutional right to be armed with a licensed gun and conducting an illegal search and seizure." Where in the Constitution, U.S. or Colorado, or Colorado state law does it say one must license a firearm? Once again the media is full of misinformation.

[cstone]

I am not one of Loveland's tax paying residents, however, if I were a tax paying resident of Loveland I would be concerned that my tax money was spent on paying off another citizen because the police may or may not have violated his rights. I'm happy to hear that Loveland police officers will receive additional training on 2nd and 4th Amendment issues.

As for organizing a public open carry demonstration (informal of course) in Loveland; could someone just contact the Loveland City Attorney's Office and ask them to send me $7500 and I will stipulate to the fact that I could have openly carried in a Loveland park, and Loveland police officers could have come and taken my gun, and we could just avoid the actual encounter for half the cost.

Just sayin.

[Mazin]

Can I get in on that, could use the money for the barret I have always wanted

[Byte Stryke]

Could pay off a bill or two...

I am in, but I want 10K, I will go 2/3s.
This way I get exactly what the first guy got without paying a lawyer

[Byte Stryke]

Thanks for pointing out the “licensing” error, I’ll correct it.
Alan Gathright
7NEWS - Content Producer
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Now if we could get the government to reply like this.

[Mazin]

LMAO Nice!

[colocowboy01]

Now if we could get the government to reply like this.

Hey Byte Stryke, did you get a hold of Alan Gathright and inform him about the license issue? I never thought about doing that but every time I see it in the news I will bug them about it now.

[ZOMBIEMASTER223]

I am not one of Loveland's tax paying residents, however, if I were a tax paying resident of Loveland I would be concerned that my tax money was spent on paying off another citizen because the police may or may not have violated his rights

YOU REALLY ARENT VERY INFORMED OR INTELLIGENT ABOUT HOW THE BUSINESS WORLD WORKS ARE YOU...

BUSINESS'S AND GOVT'S DO NOT PAY SETTLEMENTS OUT OF THEIR TAXPAYERS POCKET, THEY CARRY ERRORS AND OMISSIONS AND JUDGMENT INSURANCES, THE INSURANCE COMPANY PAYS THE SETTLEMENT OR JUDGEMENT, ..... NOT THE TAXPAYERS...

[Byte Stryke]

YOU REALLY ARENT VERY INFORMED OR INTELLIGENT ABOUT HOW THE BUSINESS WORLD WORKS ARE YOU...

BUSINESS'S AND GOVT'S DO NOT PAY SETTLEMENTS OUT OF THEIR TAXPAYERS POCKET, THEY CARRY ERRORS AND OMISSIONS AND JUDGMENT INSURANCES, THE INSURANCE COMPANY PAYS THE SETTLEMENT OR JUDGEMENT, ..... NOT THE TAXPAYERS...

as with any insurance underwriter, risk is directly translated to cost.

breaking it down simple, The more your insurance has to pay out (Judgments), the more you have to pay in premiums (Taxpayer).

so if your City PD is running a string of civil liberty abuses and has $millions every month in judgments against them, I can guarantee your premiums are going through the roof, as well as your budget.

You are corrected.

[ldmaster]

LE doesn't post here because of the not-so-recent policy changes adopted by most departments... That is, if you DO post in a public forum, you cannot identify yourself or in any way indicate which agency you work for. There have been a few guys zapped for using an alias (Douglas Cnty) and NOT identifying themselves as working for a particular agency, only to have some asshat citizen whine to a particular news organization (9News) that posted the comments, then 9News violated the anonymity of the cops login ID and outed him as working for Douglas Cnty. In his case he didn't use his real name or indicate his agency, but some f**ktard news whore decided he was going to mess with the guy's job.

It's not unusual. Frankly I used to get all kinds of flak from people who might learn that I worked for LE, they ask me "Where" and I politely decline to tell them. People out in the world will call into your department and make all kinds of claims about your conduct in the world when you are off-duty. All they think they need to know is your name and your agency. The agency MUST investigate the validity of the claim. I've gotten called a lot of names (mostly by women) when I would refuse to say where I worked.

We get stalked unknowningly every time someone knows what we do for a living. So most just dont say anything aside from "I work for the city".

And posting here as an active LEO? You really think some cop is going to risk his job by POTENTIALLY saying something his/her command staff disagrees with? They don't have to have a reason to mess with you, they can/will/do mess with you for a "potential" problem.

So LE's here might not ever render an absolutely honest opinion, and if you know someone on here who IS LE and you consider them a friend, you'd be doing them a favor by not mentioning that they post here under any name.

And finally (yeah, most of you know I'm long winded) it is all too common that someone wants to jump all over your opinion, simply because they got too many DUI's or have some beef with LE - so why bother with all that hassle from any forum members when you can just be quiet?