The pistol says RG on the grips.
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The pistol says RG on the grips.
The one on the left, with custom sporter stock, looks like a 1903 Springfield action. The other is definately an Arisaka with ground mum. The other two you already know: M1 and 1891 Mosin Nagant. The stray bayonet looks like it's for the M1917 or Enfield No2/P-14. The RG...German made .32cal?
Found out the pistol, its a German .25 that was recalled a while back because slides were hitting people in the head. Well a Germany copy pistol...RG Industries.Originally Posted by Aardvark
The bolt action on the left is a Rock Island Arsenal? I don't plan on shooting it. The action is rusted shut.
http://imgur.com/a/faWkg
I have the bolt for the mosin, I took it out when I put them in my car on the way over.
The garand is a springfield armory, serial number 498xxx. I thought the bayonet was for the Garand, but it didn't fit. The sheath is made of leather...no ID marks on it.
By now you've received
about a dozen PM's asking how much you want for the Garand. It's serial number is VERY low and was probably in service in WWII - so KEEP IT. They're worth slightly more if they haven't been messed with.
I assume you're still crying over the rust. Unfortunately, once rusted metal cannot be restored to original strength or beauty, buy you should get the rust off NOW - or at the worse, slop some grease on to help the rusting slow down until someone can help you do it right. The most important thing to check is bore and chamber, if those aren't rusted out, you're ok, just got an ugly gun!
The Arizaka sporter may or may not be original equipment, check the barrel for markings, if it LOOKS original japanese then it's not a sporter, but I have an Arisaka sporter that is a tack driver, that had had the original barrel rebored for 257 Roberts, and a french comb stock added.
The garand's low serial number means that IF it was sold to a civilian, it was probably in the 80's, a lot of rifles in that serial range were sold by the old ODCMP at that time. Again, it's fairly low serial number puts it up in price, and makes it a little hard to replace - hold onto this one.
Never liked the 03's, kicked like a mule and not very pretty.
Surplus ammo should be used, pressure gradients in the Garand make it CRUCIAL that you get ammo that was spec'd for it - commercial 30-06 may have chamber pressures that are too high. Don't forget that nearly all surplus 06 ammo is at least slightly corrosive, not to worry, you just have to use a water based solvent to clean it, like Mpro7. Don't be stingy with it either, remmber it has to melt the corrosive crystals and get washed away. Some guys just use hot water, or windex with a good lubrication after firing corrosive ammo. Corrosive ammo is ONLY a problem if you let it sit t0o long and it starts to rust, it also smells a bit funny when you fire it. It's not the propellant, but the primer that has corrosive properties, some guys test for corrosiveness by unseating the bullet, dropping the powdear out and firing the primer into an unoiled piece of polished steel, leave it three days and if it rusts up, it's corrosive.
Springfield
P14 Bayonet
Arisaka
Erma pistol (most likely .25 acp, though some were .32)
We need a serial number, sans last 3 on that rock island 1903. safety issue. if its rusted shut, its probably moot, but worth the check anyway.
EDIT: Saw the serial in the pic. Just above the safe range, if the rust damage hasn't made it totally unfirable.
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Yeah you can't cycle the bolt so it won't be able to fire. I guess Rock Island Arsenal is a huge Defense Department contractor....like massive. I checked out their website this morning.
I have no idea, but it isn't there today.
I am going to keep it, I just didn't know a whole lot about it. I do know that when he was serving in the army he was issued a Garand. He never saw combat, actually he built highways over on the Big Island in Hawaii. I was always told it was just his rifle from when he served. The Garand has some clips, like 5 or 6, and I loaded them with dummy rounds and it was able to cycle and dry fire onto the snap cap. The action feels nice and tight, but a little stiff when racking it.
As far as the Arisaka goes, I was told at least that it was from my Great-Grandfather who was part of the occupying force after WW2 and when he came back he took it back with him which is the reason why the lotus flower was shaved off the receiver per the rules back then. What other sorts of pictures do you need to identify it? The serial number is 79XXX with some other little markings on the side, one of them looks like the Trinity symbol similar to this. I need a bigger safe, there was only room for the Garand. The Mosin is way to big to fit in there, and the rest there was just simply no room.
I am just curious to learn more about these guns, I have no idea other than what i've seen on documentaries or movies. Anyone know a gun smith I could talk to to have him check out if the Garand is able to shoot? I heard Hornady makes ammo specifically for Garands now...
I guy I work with had a pistol like that. I think he said it was given to German officers instead of Lugers, I forget the name but when I see him I will ask him again. Nice collection you got going there.
It looks kind of like an Ortgies pocket pistol. But Lebru is right.
Last edited by Daniel_187; 03-19-2011 at 14:52.
Pistol says "RG INC Miami, FL" I gathered from Google that they made replicas of a German pistol. Its a .25, and the firing pin is broken (won't dry fire) so It will just be sitting in the safe.
"Bert"
and Not the Bert and Ernie variety either....
Bert of BP Tactical.
Anytime you get a new/Used weapon its best to have it thoroughly inspected.
Nothing says regret like a defective weapon blowing your face off.
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