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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    well said

    although freedom died a long time ago
    we live in a police state, but no one seems to care.

    don't think so?
    think I'm wrong?

    In the 1930's, we all made fun of nazi germany because citizens of germany could be forced to stop for no reason and show their papers to be allowed to travel.
    now we have:
    "random" DUI stops
    TSA groping
    etc

    No way would anyone of the 1930's have imagined that, yet here we are?

    We have so many police (because the peace officers are long gone) that they have nothing better to do but enforce the laws for money/fishing expeditions (or do you think that cops sitting on the side of the road running radar is for your safety?)

    and we have this week here in longmont, the SWAT team with full M16 rifles, black ski masks, black boots, black vests (remind you of anything, I'll give you a hint: 1938 Germany) going in to a medical MJ shop to shut it down because of a code violation. Really, do you feel safer?

    In the fine words of Jerry Pournelle:
    "Freedom is not free, free men are not equal, equal men are not free. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. We would not have permitted King George to do this.?"

    They really used a SWAT team to shut down a store for a code violation?
    Can you imagine them using swat to shut down a liquor store?


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    Byte: Go into a crowded movie theatre and yell 'FIRE' real loud two or three times. Attend either the DNC or the RNC, and yell 'He's got a gun!' real loud while the cameras are rolling.

    When you get out, we will talk about the limits the SCOTUS has placed on "unlimited" freedom of speech.

    Here, I'll be all fancy with the quotes as well: http://www.supremecourt.gov/search.a...eech&type=Site

    When a cop tells you to do something, you do it. If he abridged your rights, then you can sue.

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    i still say nuke them...less bombs are required. we can even call the bomber a "hybrid" or "fuel efficient" aircraft since we will be using less fuel than multiple planes/ships etc. that label will make the liberals happy too. "Green aircraft delivers aid to Libya" will be the headline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch View Post
    Byte: Go into a crowded movie theatre and yell 'FIRE' real loud two or three times. Attend either the DNC or the RNC, and yell 'He's got a gun!' real loud while the cameras are rolling.

    When you get out, we will talk about the limits the SCOTUS has placed on "unlimited" freedom of speech.

    Here, I'll be all fancy with the quotes as well: http://www.supremecourt.gov/search.a...eech&type=Site

    When a cop tells you to do something, you do it. If he abridged your rights, then you can sue.

    Well it doesn't take a civics professor to figure that ones rights never supersede the rights of another, But nice false argument.
    Just as one cannot fabricate and spread lies in either written or spoken form.
    As much as I Strongly disagree with disagree with Them, Even WBC has the right to their hate filled crap.
    Each right has responsibility, Please do try to be better in your presentations in the future. While everyone has the right to free speech, Ignorance and false arguments are not protected.

    As for the state officers abridging rights, when your taxes are multiplied by the repetitive lawsuits brought by Citizens that will not be folded asunder by fear of their government, Remember, Just shut up and do what your government tells you to do.

    Let me be clear, I do not agree with what the protestors are saying, But I Will defend with my life their right to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    They really used a SWAT team to shut down a store for a code violation?
    Can you imagine them using swat to shut down a liquor store?


    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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    yep
    a medical MJ store
    for a code violation.

    check Longmont Times Call website back a few days for the story, even has a picture of the stormtrooper, errr I mean police officer all walking around the office.
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    Watch new episodes of CODE TROOPERS on msnbc,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch View Post
    Remember folks, 60% (and up to 80% by some reports) of the foreign fighters in Iraq are either SA's or Libyan.

    Having spent a year in Iraq dealing with the detained foreign fighters and con-airing their sorry asses back to their home countries, I can say the majority were Iranian, followed by Syrian and Egyptian. There even was a British born muslim there that the Brits took control of. It was funny to hear a British accent coming from that guy, who was in compound with a number of other, different countried people. As for Libyian? Might have been one or two, but definitely a minority amount compared to other countries.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    and we have this week here in longmont, the SWAT team with full M16 rifles, black ski masks, black boots, black vests (remind you of anything, I'll give you a hint: 1938 Germany) going in to a medical MJ shop to shut it down because of a code violation. Really, do you feel safer?

    This photo? Really? Nazi Germany? Uh huh...



    MARCH 18, 2011

    Longmont police talk Thursday with Jonny Barrera, right, manager of Mother Greens medical marijuana dispensary at 615 Ken Pratt Blvd. in Longmont. Police served a search warrant at the business to look for violations of the city’s code and, specifically, violations of the business’ agreement with the city outlining the type of business Mother Greens is allowed to conduct. Richard M. Hackett/Times-Call
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    your rights < officer safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    This photo? Really? Nazi Germany? Uh huh...



    MARCH 18, 2011

    Longmont police talk Thursday with Jonny Barrera, right, manager of Mother Greens medical marijuana dispensary at 615 Ken Pratt Blvd. in Longmont. Police served a search warrant at the business to look for violations of the city’s code and, specifically, violations of the business’ agreement with the city outlining the type of business Mother Greens is allowed to conduct. Richard M. Hackett/Times-Call
    I wouldn't say Nazi Germany... but it appears a bit overboard for a code violation.
    We are talking about a Legal registered business with a storefront, not a crack house.
    Just my 2 cents

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