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    whats sad is people automaticly turn to RACE as the factor for poverty/crime. If you actually take a step back and understand our current economic/political state you would see the problem bright as day. We are seriously heading down a messed up shit storm road and most of the people on the bus are too busy fighting with each other over seats to realize whos driving and where the hell were going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Well believe it or not, some folks respect individuals based on the career they choose, i.e. Cops, Firefighters, Military etc. I respect every one serving in those capacities (and others), just because they do that job, until of course they give me reason to not respect them. When I see a Firefighter, I automatically respect him, because he serves the community, and puts his ass on the line. Now if that same firefighter responded to an emergency, and was an ass, or didn't do his job, I would lose respect for him. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    guess they don't want to respond because they are probably white and obviously already racists...so what does it matter? throwing out a BS race card is just that...BS.

    You say the actions of one bad apple reflect on the rest...go take a look at the jail system and count out the numbers of the different "races" figure out what percentage of each "race" is in there, then come back with that same comment. The actions of people reflect on the rest that are like them, you are VERY correct.

    Here is your Colorado Department of Corrections Inmate breakdown:

    Adult Inmate Population Breakdown
    (as of December 31, 2010)

    Ethnicity Male Female Total

    Profile # 20,546 2,077 22,623

    # % # % # %
    White 8,963 43.6 1,038 50.0 10,0001 44.2
    Hispanic 6,840 33.3 592 28.5 7,432 32.9
    African-Am 4,035 19.6 331 15.9 4,366 19.3
    Native Am 493 2.4 92 4.4 585 2.6
    Asian 214 1.0 24 1.2 238 1.1
    Last edited by OneGuy67; 04-04-2011 at 08:09. Reason: Can't get the numbers to line up...
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper_tim View Post
    Police officers are just regular guys/gals, however some become hardened BUT i don't hold it against them b/c the next encounter they have, could be their last.
    I knew a gas station attendant that showed up to work and was dead 25 minutes later.
    People show up to work every day with no assurances of a tomorrow, it's no reason to be "hardened" as you put it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoCharge4Awesome View Post
    whats sad is people automatically turn to RACE as the factor for poverty/crime. If you actually take a step back and understand our current economic/political state you would see the problem bright as day. We are seriously heading down a messed up shit storm road and most of the people on the bus are too busy fighting with each other over seats to realize who's driving and where the hell were going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Here is your Colorado Department of Corrections Inmate breakdown:
    I think you lost your formatting in your copy/paste

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    Quote Originally Posted by alxone View Post
    the really funny thing is that there are a few LEO's that have responded and not one of them has come up with an answer to the gun shot question .
    If the law wont respond to a call for help and we cant take the law into our own hands what are we to do ?
    Yes a ccw will do the trick for some personal circumstances but that that dose not do a damn thing for the fool shoot up the block for no reason . Or would LEO's rather just show up when there is nothing that can be done ?
    Sorry but the way i see it if your not going protect or serve the community dont demand respect . You know most of the older comunity are just plane scared of LEO's and children have little to no respect for LEO's so where do you see the future of the LEO community ?? is it just going to be you against the citizens and them against you or are we all going to find a way to work together to have a safer environment to live in . Have you ever stoped to think that if the community did not fear you and possibly even had some respect , your job might be a little safer and easier ?
    Not trying to piss off a bunch of LEO's but these are questions and issues that i feel need addressing for the good of us all (regular citizens and LEO's ) . If we cant work together as individuals then we will fail as a community .

    It's just not worth the brain cells to argue with you over the issue. I don't work in your area; you'll have to deal with the DENVER PD over it.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    PDs are paramilitary. If you or the community want the popo to refocus on your issues, you will need to lobby the local politicians, media, officials.

    Personally, every time I drive by a school and see a marked unit I think about the full time sworn officer (school resource officer) who is playing officer friendly with the kids. IMO this is a waste of taxpayer funded resources. I understand that many people disagree with me and I go on my merry way realizing the issue is just not worth my time trying to change.

    Does your PD's website allow you to file reports on-line? Denver PD does. Stats are important tools in most departments. File a report every time something happens. Eventually, you will get someones attention, which may or may not be to your advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I knew a gas station attendant that showed up to work and was dead 25 minutes later.
    People show up to work every day with no assurances of a tomorrow, it's no reason to be "hardened" as you put it.


    True, Two guys I worked with in the past, though not dead, are pretty much f'ed for life now.

    Now, granted, both could have been avoided if they had been a little more aware of their situation.

    One no longer has his right arm, because He couldn't be bothered with taking a few simple precautions around live gear.

    The other, well he's pretty much a breathing vegetable, because He didn't pay attention to the end of the concrete pour, and dumped the lift that was 20 feet in the air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    PDs are paramilitary. If you or the community want the popo to refocus on your issues, you will need to lobby the local politicians, media, officials.

    Personally, every time I drive by a school and see a marked unit I think about the full time sworn officer (school resource officer) who is playing officer friendly with the kids. IMO this is a waste of taxpayer funded resources. I understand that many people disagree with me and I go on my merry way realizing the issue is just not worth my time trying to change.

    Does your PD's website allow you to file reports on-line? Denver PD does. Stats are important tools in most departments. File a report every time something happens. Eventually, you will get someones attention, which may or may not be to your advantage.
    there are a lot of police at schools for two reasons.

    1. kids are cute and no municipal govt. can afford to let them get hurt like in columbine. lawsuits cost them money that they'd rather keep for themselves.

    2. to enculturate people from a young age to be used to armed police presence and learn to obey their orders without question.

    yeah, tin foil, yadda yadda.

    I call it like I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post
    there are a lot of police at schools for two reasons.

    1. kids are cute and no municipal govt. can afford to let them get hurt like in columbine. lawsuits cost them money that they'd rather keep for themselves.

    2. to enculturate people from a young age to be used to armed police presence and learn to obey their orders without question.

    yeah, tin foil, yadda yadda.

    I call it like I see it.

    Yup. Tin foil hat. You need me to bring some more over to your house?
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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