Its a lot of he said she said. I don't know if he is on this fourm(so forgive my lack of details) but a guy ridding his scouter on the shoulder and had his pistol on his belt and some guy almost hit him, and then guy on scouter flipped the bird and guy in car called the cops and said he pulled his gun on him. So Unless i was there I really can't say. just lots of ass holes out there