Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
When they have no witnesses, it becomes he said she said. And there are charges brought against the man... not the woman.

Also, Re: the deadly force byte.... you fail to see my point. Yes, nobody is killed, no shots are fired.

Why are you drawing a gun if you are not ready and justified in use it?

That is your litmus test in "should you draw". Are you ready, are you justified in using it. Period. There is no situation where its okay to wave a gun around for the sake of waving it around. Note: I don't say you have to use it if you draw it (some instructors claim that), I simply say you must be willing and ready to.

I think we can safely say, No, and No. Would he have shot the lady if she didn't back up? I doubt it, unless hes into the whole manslaughter thing. Would he be justified if he did? Hell no. No and No.

And you're entire basis of argument is from completely theoretical details. Now she left skid marks? Like I said, try to justify it if she stepped out of her car with a bazooka. He still doesn't have a legal claim to justified self defense. (though a 3rd party would)

then you do not justify the right of an aggressor to flee?

Just as a hypothetical that may or may not be relevant here.
An aggressor moves towards to in a manner which will cause death or serious injury... oh lets say speeding at you in a car, or has happened lately, walking at you in an aggressive posture with a large solid piece of sporting equipment.

as I Understand you, you are saying if I See an undeniable threat and I Draw, I am then obligated to kill the threat even should he/she see the fact I am not going down as easily as he/She had initially thought and they Flee or stand down?
Would it not be more responsible to also stand down while maintain a defensive posture.


Just trying to get your perception on this.