AR vs AK

[gcrookston]

Don't forget their recoil is high in comparison to other rifles of the same caliber.... and even the added heft didn't compensate for it.

Recoil? It's about a 2 on a scale of 10. I've never noticed. I suppose someone that hasn't tamed the 10/22 might have trouble...

[jreifsch80]

Recoil? It's about a 2 on a scale of 10. I've never noticed. I suppose someone that hasn't tamed the 10/22 might have trouble...

Haha that's funny, I think the reason people are put off by the recoil is how different it feels to a gas op system not as much the intensity. I still need to build my cetma someday, anyone have a bending jig and mandrel? I might just get a ptr91 receiver since they're on sale for 199 right now. Also does

Gcrook, is that hk33 you have a home build or a century? I see the distributors are selling em for almost what kits go for. If it is a century are they built alright? I'm a little gun shy about century builds (pun intended) especially how their early cetmes were built.

[gcrookston]

Gcrook, is that hk33 you have a home build or a century? I see the distributors are selling em for almost what kits go for. If it is a century are they built alright? I'm a little gun shy about century builds (pun intended) especially how their early cetmes were built.

It's Heckler and Koch HK93 with a Fleming sear (3 calibre; 9, 5.56 & 7.62). The one below it is also Heckler and Koch, my 7.62 host.

[jreifsch80]

Oh man that is awesome! I figured the 93 wasn't a century haha so I was thinking probably a kit build. What are hk transferable sears going for now days if you by chance know?

Now you need to find an hk21 kit for another awesome 7.62 host

[monganian]

even with a nice clean gun .223 ak's can be problematic, let alone a romanian ak haha, with feeding and ejection. for some reason ak's don't like .223 as much as the com-bloc rounds i think due to the straighter walls of the cartridge.

your generalization would be like if i sad all ar's have unreliable bolts because they are prone to cracking since some 7.62x39 ar bolts crack

I used to have my nose in the air because I thought that most AR's were high maintenance and AK's were not. I've had a few AK's now and some have jammed while others have not. I just think that video was pretty impressive. Ultimately, I'd pick the gun that you prefer to shoot.

[gcrookston]

jreif -- As I stated in my 1st post on this thread, the quality of the build has everything to do with the reliability and performance of both AR and AK platform guns. There is a lot of junk out there. My Polytech Type 84S is flawless in operation. It's the only 5.56 I own that I shoot steel case in. It's just impossible to jam.

At the time I picked up the sear, I'd ordered an HK23 conversion, but the manufacturer got into trouble with the ATF about that time and it was never built, then I got married... same ol same ol.

I haven't seen a fleming come up for sale in some time, but my buddies over at ASI have a couple of S&H sears (same as fleming), I'd be surprised if they were less than $10k (www.autoweapons.com).

[jreifsch80]

Monganian I was just giving you a hard time. I agree shoot what you prefer. I love both ak's and ar's though I am much more comfortable and familiar with the akm and ak74 platforms. What it really comes down to is that by design ar's are inherently more accurate, and ak's are inherently more reliable, ar's are plenty reliable and ak's are plenty accurate. By the way, my ukrainian buddy said if they would have ever had a malfunction in combat due to a dirty rifle the penalty would have been a court martial and at the very least getting busted.

Crook, I figured hk sears went for at least 10k at least that's not too absurd I guess. You should build a semi auto closed bolt mg42 that uses an hk grip and fcg hehe now that would be an awesome host

[monganian]

no offense taken

[gcrookston]

jreif. I think if I do anything further with the sear I'll put it in a dyer MP5N. I've had the thing so long the cost wasn't much more than the tax stamp or the price of my 84s, which I bought new (guess that's dating me).

[Jolly Green]

Here is an interesting article I found concerning AR15/M4 reliability.

http://www.defensereview.com/the-big...m4-unreliable/

"I fired 2400 rounds of M193 through a 14.5” M4-type upper receiver from Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM) with no lubrication, and without any rifle-caused malfunctions."