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    Default Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2011

    I missed this one. Introduced by every gun-owner's friend, Barbara Boxer, back in Jan. The text is below.

    So, for all you people who think the gov't should be in the business of mandating concealed firearm permit training standards, here ya go. You're eventually gonna get exactly what you asked for:


    112th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    S. 176

    To establish minimum standards for States that allow the carrying of concealed firearms.

    IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

    January 25 (legislative day, January 5), 2011

    Mrs. BOXER introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    A BILL

    To establish minimum standards for States that allow the carrying of concealed firearms.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the ‘Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2011’.

    SEC. 2. CONCEALED FIREARMS PERMITS.

    (a) In General- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926C, the following:

    Sec. 926D. Concealed firearms permits

    (a) In General- Each State that allows residents of the State to carry concealed firearms shall--

    (1) establish a process to issue permits to residents of the State to carry concealed firearms; and

    (2) require that each resident of the State seeking to carry a concealed firearm in the State obtain a permit through the process established under paragraph (1).

    (b) Requirements- In establishing a process to issue permits to carry concealed firearms under subsection (a), a State shall--

    (1) ensure that a local law enforcement agency participates in the process; and

    (2) at a minimum, require that an applicant for a permit to carry a concealed firearm--

    (A) be a legal resident of the United States;

    (B) be not less than 21 years of age;

    (C) demonstrate good cause for requesting a concealed firearm permit; and

    (D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.

    (c) Law Enforcement Agency Report- If a State establishes a process under subsection (a) that allows for an agency other than a law enforcement agency to issue permits to carry concealed firearms, the process shall require that--

    (1) a local law enforcement agency submit to the agency responsible for issuing permits a written report that describes whether the applicant meets the standards of the State to carry a concealed firearm; and

    (2) the agency responsible for issuing permits maintain a report submitted under paragraph (1) in the file of the applicant.

    (d) Definition- In this section, the term ‘local law enforcement agency’ means a law enforcement agency of the unit of local government with jurisdiction of the area in which the applicant for a permit to carry a concealed firearm resides.

    (e) Compliance- Not later than 270 days after the date of enactment of this section, each State described in subsection (a) shall be in compliance with this section.

    (b) Technical and Conforming Amendment- The table of sections for chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 926C the following:

    926D. Concealed firearms permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I missed this one. Introduced by every gun-owner's friend, Barbara Boxer, back in Jan. The text is below.

    So, for all you people who think the gov't should be in the business of mandating concealed firearm permit training standards, here ya go. You're eventually gonna get exactly what you asked for:


    112th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    S. 176

    To establish minimum standards for States that allow the carrying of concealed firearms.

    IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

    January 25 (legislative day, January 5), 2011

    Mrs. BOXER introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    A BILL

    To establish minimum standards for States that allow the carrying of concealed firearms.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the ‘Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2011’.

    SEC. 2. CONCEALED FIREARMS PERMITS.

    (a) In General- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926C, the following:

    Sec. 926D. Concealed firearms permits

    (a) In General- Each State that allows residents of the State to carry concealed firearms shall--

    (1) establish a process to issue permits to residents of the State to carry concealed firearms; and

    (2) require that each resident of the State seeking to carry a concealed firearm in the State obtain a permit through the process established under paragraph (1).

    (b) Requirements- In establishing a process to issue permits to carry concealed firearms under subsection (a), a State shall--

    (1) ensure that a local law enforcement agency participates in the process; and

    (2) at a minimum, require that an applicant for a permit to carry a concealed firearm--

    (A) be a legal resident of the United States;

    (B) be not less than 21 years of age;

    (C) demonstrate good cause for requesting a concealed firearm permit; and

    (D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.

    (c) Law Enforcement Agency Report- If a State establishes a process under subsection (a) that allows for an agency other than a law enforcement agency to issue permits to carry concealed firearms, the process shall require that--

    (1) a local law enforcement agency submit to the agency responsible for issuing permits a written report that describes whether the applicant meets the standards of the State to carry a concealed firearm; and

    (2) the agency responsible for issuing permits maintain a report submitted under paragraph (1) in the file of the applicant.

    (d) Definition- In this section, the term ‘local law enforcement agency’ means a law enforcement agency of the unit of local government with jurisdiction of the area in which the applicant for a permit to carry a concealed firearm resides.

    (e) Compliance- Not later than 270 days after the date of enactment of this section, each State described in subsection (a) shall be in compliance with this section.

    (b) Technical and Conforming Amendment- The table of sections for chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 926C the following:

    926D. Concealed firearms permits.
    thats the one that bugs me
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    I'm not real crazy about...

    (D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.

    ...either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I'm not real crazy about...

    (D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.

    ...either.
    Agreed this is on the federal level correct?
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    I'm not crazy about the federal government usurping the power of the states to issue licenses period.



    It was referred to the Judicial Committee back on January 25th and there has been no movement since then. While I expect its just going to die in committee (this isn't the first time Ms Boxer has introduced crazy stupid shit like this just to die in committee) but we should all keep our eyes on this.

    Even if it makes it to the floor of the Senate, the House will not be passing something like this.


    Again we should be vigilant, but lets not blow a gasket over every piece of anti-gun legislation introduced ... there are tons of bills that are introduced that do all sorts of evil things that never get anywhere. By writing such bills those that write them get to throw bones to their constituency groups without actually doing anything.
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    Not blowing a gasket over it. But I wasn't even aware of it...didn't figure too many others were, either. And I agree it isn't going anywhere...yet. But what would the prospects for this bill be if the republicans hadn't won the house last Nov?

    My point for posting is that we really need to be careful about inviting the gov't into our lives.
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    [sarcasm]
    How could anybody be against a bill that just simply legislates COMMON SENSE?
    [/sarcasm]

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-176

    Yeah, no movement. But you can follow the link to check on anything that might change. I'm not convinced this will die in committee. Some of the committee members are Dianne Feinstein, Dicky Turban, Patrick Leahy, Al Franken, Chuck Schumer, Amy Klobuchar, all of which are likely to just LOVE this legislation. The committee is 10 Dims, 8 Rs, and I'm not sure we can count on Lindsey Graham to be on our side.

    Probably need to get some letters to our Representatives, to be ready to kill this thing in the House if it gets there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I'm not crazy about the federal government usurping the power of the states to issue licenses period.



    It was referred to the Judicial Committee back on January 25th and there has been no movement since then. While I expect its just going to die in committee (this isn't the first time Ms Boxer has introduced crazy stupid shit like this just to die in committee) but we should all keep our eyes on this.

    Even if it makes it to the floor of the Senate, the House will not be passing something like this.


    Again we should be vigilant, but lets not blow a gasket over every piece of anti-gun legislation introduced ... there are tons of bills that are introduced that do all sorts of evil things that never get anywhere. By writing such bills those that write them get to throw bones to their constituency groups without actually doing anything.
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    Common sense and government?


    demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public. ???

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