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    The dog is a member of the police force and a police officer. They even have a badge and everything. Messing with one is like messing with a human officer. You will lose, except have a few puncture wounds to prove it.

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    so did this officer get charged with murder of a police officer?




    how about these guys? they killed a cop.

    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/6310/


    edited to add: http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...g_left_in.html <-- police dog dies after being left in hot car.



    a dog is a dog.

    if the dog is used by police to fight crime then it's a dog that's used by police to fight crime.

    a dog is not a cop.

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    Dog gone...couldn't he just mace the dog like they do little kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    here is the problem with an LEO dog.

    LEO isnt supposed to search without a warrant but,

    LEO dogs search without warrant. then they use the evidence against the person. seems like a violation of the 4th ammmendment to me.
    Dogs don't search w/o a warrant just because they can 'hit' on scents that are imperceptible to humans.. part of their nature.. just as seeing a bag of weed on a dash gives cop reasonable suspicion to search..smelling it gives the dog such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    here is the problem with an LEO dog.

    LEO isnt supposed to search without a warrant but,

    LEO dogs search without warrant. then they use the evidence against the person. seems like a violation of the 4th ammmendment to me.

    Well this isn't entirely true, there are tons of warrant-less searches.

    I have no idea about the K9 portion but I am sure a big part of the arrest or detention had to do with the intoxication...

    A great clue to intoxication, other than the odor, would be comments like, "He started it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    im sorry, i didnt respond to the story. just my observation.

    the courts have allowed a police dog to be a police officer and not a police officer, when it suits their needs.

    a dog smells a controlled substance...not an officer.
    obsruct a police dog... and its now an officer.

    I do see your point, but if I smell a controlled substance it can often be considered "Plain view, plain smell" and not require a warrant...

    But I am not a dog handler so I don't spend a lot of time researching the dog rules

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    Here in Colorado, the state supreme court came out several years ago and stated officers in Colorado cannot run a dog on a vehicle for no reason. Can't do it because you're bored, can't do it because the driver is a jerk. There has to be some articulable reason to do so, and they are very specific as to what those reasons are.

    Now, if the vehicle has been towed as part of an arrest, then I'm not sure on that. I've heard two different statements from the K9 officers on that situation.
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    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post
    so did this officer get charged with murder of a police officer?




    how about these guys? they killed a cop.

    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/6310/


    edited to add: http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2...g_left_in.html <-- police dog dies after being left in hot car.



    a dog is a dog.

    if the dog is used by police to fight crime then it's a dog that's used by police to fight crime.

    a dog is not a cop.
    then explain to me why my brother in laws dog has a badge and is listed as an officer on the PD website? Why my uncles dog in the Mass state Troopers has a badge and is listed as an officer? When I asked them they said the killing of a police dog or attacking a dog is considered assault on a police officer.

    If you could explain it to me and where they are wrong I would greatly appreciate it..thanks.

    joe

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