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    Question Detail strip prior to sale?

    This is the second time this bullshit has occurred.

    A couple years back one of my first deals involved selling a vintage M1 carbine to a guy who said he was a collector. He said he'd take it at my very fair asking price, but when we met he started hemming and hawing and said he wanted to field strip it first. Stupidly, I agreed to this, even though it had a very low round count and I'd never stripped it myself. After the basic strip, he takes out a fucking Leatherman and begins trying to disassemble the trigger group "to see if the numbers all match" and I stopped him right there. After he put it back together he stated he already had a dozen carbines and didn't really need another and tried to shortchange me a hundred bucks. Since then, I decided no-one takes apart my gun prior to a sale. He was clearly a scumbag thief and I believe he had no intention of putting that trigger group back together if I'd allowed him to take it apart. You can look it over all you want, but no field strip and certainly no detail strip.

    Right now I have a match grade 1911 with a 2.5# trigger up for sale (currently SPF). Some clown with zero posts who recently joined offered me a decent trade deal for it. He was offering a bull barrel S&W 10-8 bull barrel in Excellent condition plus $500 cash. Only thing is, he wanted someone to "look at" the trigger first and said he also intended to detail strip the pistol. I told him no. Haven't heard back from him since.

    Now, I don't think I'm being unreasonable at all. I present things as they are and like my deals to be simple and quick with minimal BS. I have never asked to strip down someone else's gun prior to purchase, and I'd expect they'd be plenty pissed off if I did, especially if no prior indication was given of my intention to do so and we'd both traveled a fair distance to meet up. Not gonna do it.

    I am just wondering if anyone has ever tried pulling this BS on any of you, and under what circumstances it might be considered acceptable behavior on the part of a buyer to even request such a thing.

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    Honestly if a buyer wants to do a simple field strip I can understand that because you can get a good idea of the wear on a used piece that way, but detail stripping is just dumb.

    Even then I wouldn't let them do the field stripping, I would do it and then they could look at the parts and then I will reassemble it ... until the money is in my pocket I'm not letting you monkey with my gun.

    To use cars as an analogy, I have no problem with someone looking under the hood ... checking the oil ... maybe even putting the car on a lift to get a look under it (I'd say that's about the same as field stripping). But if you want to pull the head off the motor you need to just go away.
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    No strip at all. If you want to check the guts I will do a basic strip and hand you 1 part at a time. Thats it...dont like it? Leave and dont buy my gun.

    Joe

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    It's your gun, until he buys it... your gun, your rules...

    with a 1911, he can do a full function test without disassembling, he can test the weight of the trigger if he so desires... If I were selling it, I'd take the slide off the frame for him to allow inspection of some internal parts.

    but a detail strip, better show me your gunsmith credentials, and I want a non-refundable deposit 1st. (at least not refunded if it doesn't go back the same exact condition it was before the detail strip).
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    No way !! If he wanted it that bad I'd tell him we could go to a gunsmith on his dime and have it inspected.
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    well I snap bought an M1 carbine at a gunshow that ended up having a severe defect. a problem that a field strip would have revealed.

    also a few years back I came close to buying a RRA 1911 from a guy on glocktalk, I asked for and he supplied photos of the gun field stripped. He was very cool about it, and I thanked him. came close but I ended
    up choosing to wait.

    if I was selling a firearm, and the guy wanted to field strip the firearm I'd have no problem doing that for them while they watched or sending them photos.

    detail strip? sure. just need to leave a small deposit to take it for a test drive.



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    If it's a sale I'd be willing to do a basic field strip myself. I'm not going to let someone I don't know do that. I'd also require that he tell me ahead of time so I can review how to do it. I've been selling guns I don't shoot so I'm rusty on how to take them apart.

    If you do have a fair number of guns, those disassembly books are great, especially when I have to do something detailed. But back to the sale, detailed stripping is way, way out unless we're meeting at a gunsmith. The last thing I want to see is some small part flying away across a parking lot.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post

    "I'd like to rent your helicopter"

    "I'm sorry, it's not for rent. Though it is for sale."

    "How much?"

    "Two million dollars"

    "I'd like to take it for a test flight"

    "Of course, you just need to leave a deposit"

    "How much?"

    "Two million dollars"


    ARGH!!! what movie is that from .. I'm gunna bash my head into the wall till I remember ! LOL


    Ah found it .. Clear And Present Danger

    Ok movie

    AWESOME book .

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    I once bought a Browning Hi Power in near new condition. When I got it home I took off the slide and found some idiot etched his social security number on the slide and frame. I have found M1s with reweld signs, cobbled up internals etc.

    I will often field strip a handgun or M1 to see if anyone has monkeyed with the gun. I ask the owner before if there is anything non factory done to the gun. I then say I will take at what ever price we agree upon so long as I can field strip the gun and see that is accurate. I never had anyone balk at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    ARGH!!! what movie is that from .. I'm gunna bash my head into the wall till I remember ! LOL


    Ah found it .. Clear And Present Danger

    Ok movie

    AWESOME book .
    clear and present danger


    secular error probability zero.
    impact with high order detonation.
    have a nice day.




    oh you found it heh

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