Detail strip prior to sale?

[TFOGGER]

Detail strip? N.O.N.B.F.N.

If they have questions about matching numbers, we can meet at a chosen gunsmith, where they can pay for disassembly/reassembly, REGARDLESS of whether the sale is completed.

Not really an issue for me, as none of my guns were collector pieces prior to the horrible boating accident.

I would be happy to field strip the weapon at the time if sale, if notified in advance, or if we were meeting at my shop, where I could clean off the desk for such an operation.

[CHA-LEE]

I have been bitten by not field stripping a gun before buying it, then later finding that it needs a hundred dollars worth of parts replaced due to being damaged or worn out.

Now I will not purchase a firearm that is not field stripped so I can inspect it first, even a new firearm. I just want to see the key components once its apart to validate its condition. I don't care if I field strip it or the seller does. Who does it really does not matter.

But a buyer demanding a detailed strip of the firearm before buying it is over the top though. If they are that worried about it then they should just go by a new firearm instead of something used.

[Ah Pook]

To use cars as an analogy, I have no problem with someone looking under the hood ... checking the oil ... maybe even putting the car on a lift to get a look under it (I'd say that's about the same as field stripping). But if you want to pull the head off the motor you need to just go away.

My first thought.

I just don't understand some people. If I'm a collector and want a detailed accounting of a rifle, I'd request a competent gunsmith do the physical research. That would be for a rare expensive piece, not a common couple hundred dollar firearm. Then again, there are people in the sales section that I just don't do business with.

I've bought and sold on this forum and have had more trouble with buyers then sellers.

Caveat venditor

[Byte Stryke]

Detail strip? N.O.N.B.F.N.

If they have questions about matching numbers, we can meet at a chosen gunsmith, where they can pay for disassembly/reassembly, REGARDLESS of whether the sale is completed.

THIS^


If I am serious about purchasing a weapon, I want to be fair to BOTH Sides.
I wouldn't want some jackass tearing my gun apart and then balking but I also dont want to buy someones broken monkeyed up basement-smith crap either.

"hey, I have this Gunsmith I want to look it over, Meet me there with it, he checks it over at my cost regardless and we can go from there."

I Have had a guy selling a "New in Box" Back out on that.
I can only guess he was FOS or his shit was broken or not as nearly as new as advertised.

[ronaldrwl]

I have never asked but would ask the owner to do the take down.

[cstone]

Checking feedback has worked well for me. I appreciate the feedback you leave for one another because it makes it easier for me to decide who is worth dealing with and who should be avoided.

Communications is the key. I was born an annal retentive person and I am aware it can be annoying having everything I expect spelled out either on the phone or in an email prior to a meeting, but it helps me avoid any misunderstandings later on down the road.

Guns are mechanical items and through regular use, there are parts that will need to be repaired or replaced. If I am buying a used gun, I expect to pay for a used gun. If I want NIB, I buy from a reputable dealer.

All of my guns are shooters. I am not a collector. Nothing I buy will be NIB for very long after I own it. If someone is buying from me, I will tell them how long I've owned it and how much I've shot it. If anything has been repaired or replaced, I will tell them that as well. So far things have gone pretty well and I really enjoy every FTF purchase/sale I've done through this board. Guess I'm just lucky.

[Byte Stryke]

Checking feedback has worked well for me. I appreciate the feedback you leave for one another because it makes it easier for me to decide who is worth dealing with and who should be avoided.

Communications is the key. I was born an annal retentive person and I am aware it can be annoying having everything I expect spelled out either on the phone or in an email prior to a meeting, but it helps me avoid any misunderstandings later on down the road.

Guns are mechanical items and through regular use, there are parts that will need to be repaired or replaced. If I am buying a used gun, I expect to pay for a used gun. If I want NIB, I buy from a reputable dealer.

All of my guns are shooters. I am not a collector. Nothing I buy will be NIB for very long after I own it. If someone is buying from me, I will tell them how long I've owned it and how much I've shot it. If anything has been repaired or replaced, I will tell them that as well. So far things have gone pretty well and I really enjoy every FTF purchase/sale I've done through this board. Guess I'm just lucky.

Sadly Cstone, everyone else is not as honest as you.
There are some jackholes in this world that will try to cover slide marks and holster wear with a Magic marker. They will try to sell you a busted CZ because they dont want to pay for the parts/repairs. A Broken whatever lever/sear/pin is a reason to sell it to a sucker for $50 more than they retail new because they are including their sweaty supertuck knockoff and then buy a new one.

I Dont use a trip to the smith as a bartering agent, This station testing is Go/No-Go. If it's anything less than advertised its a No-Go.

You pay, I pay but its going to a smith before I Say "I'll take it."

[BlasterBob]

Once had a really nice Winchester Model 12 in 12 gauge. Got tired of it so got a table at a gun show and put her up for sale. Had a very decent price on it and had a lot of lookers but of course money was damn tight at that time. Had one "expert collector" extremely interested in the gun at my price. Said he'd take it if he could take it apart (didn't know if he was referring to like field stripping or detail). He got it broken down without any springs hitting the ceiling or pins rolling around on the floor. After reassembling it, said that it was a great gun, just what he was looking for but didn't have the money at the moment. He walked away quickly and shortly after, another fellow asked to check it over. In closely checking it, he indicated that there was a rather important piece (forget now just what it was) missing and the gun would not function without that missing piece. I knew that the "expert" swiped the missing piece because the Model 12 had been functioning perfectly for me prior to the gun show. NEVER AGAIN!! I have had people ask if they could strip certain guns and I have always told them, "sure, right after you pay for it and if there is something wrong with it, I'll refund your money". I hate thieves and liars.

[Elhuero]

Once had a really nice Winchester Model 12 in 12 gauge. Got tired of it so got a table at a gun show and put her up for sale. Had a very decent price on it and had a lot of lookers but of course money was damn tight at that time. Had one "expert collector" extremely interested in the gun at my price. Said he'd take it if he could take it apart (didn't know if he was referring to like field stripping or detail). He got it broken down without any springs hitting the ceiling or pins rolling around on the floor. After reassembling it, said that it was a great gun, just what he was looking for but didn't have the money at the moment. He walked away quickly and shortly after, another fellow asked to check it over. In closely checking it, he indicated that there was a rather important piece (forget now just what it was) missing and the gun would not function without that missing piece. I knew that the "expert" swiped the missing piece because the Model 12 had been functioning perfectly for me prior to the gun show. NEVER AGAIN!! I have had people ask if they could strip certain guns and I have always told them, "sure, right after you pay for it and if there is something wrong with it, I'll refund your money". I hate thieves and liars.

yup, the guy I bought the carbine from had me fill out my info on the receipt, then after I purchased it and discovered it was broken I checked the paperwork and lo and behold just my info was there.

he never filled out the rest.

and for the life of me I can't remember his name. but I remember his face and if I ever see him.....

hmm reminds me. I have to get some pics taken and see if BPtactical can do anything with it. (besides scrap it)

the other gun I bought at the same gun show was also a POS. no more gun shows for me.

[Colorado Luckydog]

I wonder if we have ran into the same guy. I've only had one person that wanted to disassemble a weapon before he bought it. It was an AR 15. I let him take it apart. After he inspected it, he said it was not really what he was looking for. I'm thinking WTF?? Taking it apart was not going to change what kind of firearm it was. Then he started in on if it was cheaper, maybe he would buy it. I could not get him out of my house fast enough. The AR he was looking at had less than 100 rounds through it. All of this was after a very adamant "I WILL TAKE IT". Not a "I will take it if you let me take it apart and come down on the price".

The one thing I will say about this site is, the guys here are a lot of good dudes and I have had very good luck both buying and selling.