New gun safe - which and why??

[hollohas]

I'm by not means an expert but in doing research for my liberty I learned about safe construction and from my understanding plates instead of pins for the locking system is something easily destroyed. Even looking at the picture the door looks very flimsy compared to others.

Neat idea but I'd rather have my guns still inside then look at a cool carousel.

That thing pictured is far from flimsy, it's 35"x31" and weights 1050lbs. Liberty's use mainly 12-11 gauge steel (except for the Presidential and National), this one is 6 gauge and the tops and bottoms are 1/4" thick (less than 3 gauge).

Although I think the pin locking vs plates sounds like a fair assessment.

[babirl]

My latest "residential security container"/gun safe is an AMSEC BF-series after many years of research.

"Best of both worlds" yet still not a "real safe" - However, it's a serious upgrade that comes at a definite price difference from what most are willing to invest and what's available locally w/out some serious shopping.

I'm confident the high-end Liberty, Sturdy, and a few others are just as good, but none are "cheap."

Err... http://www.graffundersafes.com/

B2

The "thermo-God-dynamics" lesson noted... Do some research, ask the pros, and ignore the hype.

There's a reason some of these "high-dollar" US manufacturers are still in business... Oh yeah, buy the largest RSC you can afford and fit up to about 40"! (Measure twice/think about a 38" door swing...)

Also, assuming a real RSC and >1000#, I'd recommend hiring a pro-mover