CCW at Coors Field?

[Irving]

Just put your gun inside your mit and hold it closed.

[Geology Rocks]

If anyone wants to carry I recommend going int he side entrance. Where we went in there was a 20 year old girl scanning our tickets, no guards, no nothing. Would have been easy. Plus the only police officers I saw were Denver and I don't think they could have caught anyone. I also didnt see any signs on the doors or anything saying no firearms permitted. just an fyi

[lebru]

The Denver Metropolitan Major League Baseball Stadium District was formed by the state government and not a private entity. It is a subdivision of the state so if anything a local government and there for (more big font).



In addition no where in the CRS are firearms banned in the stadium. Glass bottles are banned however.

Also even if it was only one of the three, there are not doing any of the three. They do not screen every person, the metal detectors are not permanent, and they do not have the ability to hold your weapon while in the building.

Formed by a local government =/= owned by the local government. The Rockies organization owns a lease on the building, the Rockies are a private entity, meaning while they lease they own the building. Making it a Private building, and meaning they can do whatever they want and ban firearms if they want too.

Also, buy purchasing a ticket you automatically agree to their terms and conditions of entering the park. One of those is that there are no firearms allowed. Check the back of your tickets, it says it in small print. Small, but still there and in plain sight. By purchasing a ticket you are effectively waving your right to CC at Coors Field. It also says if you do not agree, to sell your ticket back to the box office. So basically, you buy the ticket your are saying 'I will not carry my gun into coors field'. That is a legally binding contract, will they take you to court? Probably not, but why risk it? You might lose your permit.

[Byte Stryke]

Formed by a local government =/= owned by the local government. The Rockies organization owns a lease on the building, the Rockies are a private entity, meaning while they lease they own the building. Making it a Private building, and meaning they can do whatever they want and ban firearms if they want too.

Also, buy purchasing a ticket you automatically agree to their terms and conditions of entering the park. One of those is that there are no firearms allowed. Check the back of your tickets, it says it in small print. Small, but still there and in plain sight. By purchasing a ticket you are effectively waving your right to CC at Coors Field. It also says if you do not agree, to sell your ticket back to the box office. So basically, you buy the ticket your are saying 'I will not carry my gun into coors field'. That is a legally binding contract, will they take you to court? Probably not, but why risk it? You might lose your permit.

so they aren't a government agency, how are they going to revoke my permit?
Best they can do is to tell me to leave.
their "Security" Cannot even force you to leave.
If I Refuse then the PD Becomes involved and its criminal trespass.


I remember a friend of mine was being "Forceably Escorted" from McNichols and was "Dropped" down a flight of stairs.

4.5 Million later...

while I Agree that it is a private holding under lease, you must also remember that it is a property operated for public patronage, which is no where near the same as private property. ALL of the laws regarding CCW Signage must still be followed.

My House, Private Property
Local 7-11, Private holding operated for public patronage.

you walk into my house, we have a HUGE Problem
you walk into a 7-11, no problem.

I Can and probably will use force to remove you from my home and will be protected in doing so.
7-11 manager will call the local PD if you create a huge issue.

I Could go on and on but yeah, I think you get the point.

[ronaldrwl]

Did you get checked?

[lebru]

They can take it away because its "private property" and they can do whatever they want on their property as per the law as it is currently written. You agree when buying a ticket to follow the rules, one of those is no firearms. You are held liable for any violations of the rules you agreed to by buying a ticket.

[Byte Stryke]

They can take it away because its "private property" and they can do whatever they want on their property as per the law as it is currently written. You agree when buying a ticket to follow the rules, one of those is no firearms. You are held liable for any violations of the rules you agreed to by buying a ticket.

yeah I want to see a non-government private company revoke a government issued permit.

WT... Are you smoking?

The only way that would happen is if they asked you to leave and you refused and were arrested for it.
other than that... good luck

[Irving]

lebru meant that they can take away your gun, not your permit. By "take away" he means that they either require you to return it to your car, or give it to them to dispose of before you enter. Same as anything else.

[ldmaster]

1. Coors Field is operating under a sole-lease agreement, essentially it is NOT a "public building" as noted in CRS the definition of a public building doesn't fit. It's the definition that rules, and Coors Field doesn't fit it.

2. They can't "take away" anything, if they find it the FIRST thing they'll do is call for the cops they have there. The cops will tell you you can't enter with it and probably run you to see if you have a permit. The cop might disarm you briefly, but Coors Field cant.

3. Went to San Diego and hit the Shamu place. Big signs leading up to it talk about what you can and cannot carry into the amusement park. I've got a gun and a Taser. They're well concealed in my bag. I get up to the "search" area and am asked to look in the bag. The Taser is in plain sight for some stupid reason, but it's bright yellow and just has "X26" on it. He closes the bag. At the same moment some guy who looked at least 75 had had HIS bag searched and they found...

Wait for it...


a McDonald's hamburger...

They swarmed the old guy. Seriously, my family and I started laughing. The old guy was protesting, but not loudly, and it wasn't about the hamburger - it was about the response. Like six people surrounded him.

so the world was safe from clogged arteries, but not from Glock or Taser Intl.

Still laugh about it.

They didn't seize his hamburger, they told him to eat it or take it to his car. Didn't wait around to see.

Seriously though, the training these people receive is that if the FIND a weapon, they dont get into it with the person, THAT is why the police are there at all games.

And the franchises do NOT want to piss off their fan base, they don't dig around in crotches or pink delicate bits to determine if you've taped razor blades to them. They want 40 thousand people to come, get drunk on expensive cheap beer, and get out of the stadium quickly. Public relation nightmares take place when you make a big deal out of something like this where the other fans can see you.