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    After working in a test lab that tested mechanical and electrical components for some military contractors; most electronics used in the military are not protected against an EMP. In fact the mil requirement for most produced items withstanding and EMP was dropped almost 20 years ago.

    ESD (electro-static-discharge) is minor version of an EMP.
    Visualize a static shock from the carpet when you touch someone and they say ouch.
    You body can store between 4,000-35,000 Volts as a capacitor your body can store up to 100 picofarads

    As an ESD this can destroy most electronics that are not protected.
    EMP's can knock out major and minor electronics including a power grid over 1000 miles a way.
    (Starfish Prime 1962- with a small yield)

    Static charges break down at 10,000V/cm. EMP's can actually generate a continued and growing ESD as they travel.... south, but not north towards the magnetic pole.

    An EMP or nuke denated for an EMP over say North Dakota (because EMP's travel mostly south) would knock out most electronics of 90-95% of the country. A EMP detination in Florida would affect nearby states and the northeast, central and west coast would be unaffected.

    Now the question is what can you do to protect yourself?
    A Faraday Cage will protect electronics. Tin foil wrap (not aluminum foil) will work. Ferrous metal containers will protect electronics. That means metal gun lockers and safes will save your electronic sites.

    The mil dropped its requirement for electronic hardening because the cost out weighted the benefits of a possible EMP. IMHO you have bigger things to worry about like food and water shortages in a SHTF scenario. If you think you might ever encounter this think about a BUIS. Personally all of my SHTF guns have iron sites and nothing attached to them that will break or fall off. K.I.S.S.- The ultimate in reliability.
    Last edited by Colorado Osprey; 05-08-2011 at 07:03.
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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    All of my stuff is fine because I put magical tape on it.
    If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot... Forget youth, what we need is a fountain of smart. There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots.
    Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. --Isaac Asimov
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    IDK this is why i don't put electronics on guns or cars etc.. Also why I keep building my skills to fix and build necessities without any electricity. I feel like too many people rely on it too much..

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    Oh yeah, and how much is that magical tape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theskalickys View Post
    Oh yeah, and how much is that magical tape?
    vastly more expensive than zombie protection...
    You sir, are a specialist in the art of discovering a welcoming outcome of a particular situation....not a mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theskalickys View Post
    IDK this is why i don't put electronics on guns or cars etc.. Also why I keep building my skills to fix and build necessities without any electricity. I feel like too many people rely on it too much..
    This is why you should also run a good set of back up sights and practice just as much with them as you do your red dot or whatever it is that you have.
    If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot... Forget youth, what we need is a fountain of smart. There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theskalickys View Post
    Oh yeah, and how much is that magical tape?
    I don't know, I asked google for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by DFBrews View Post
    vastly more expensive than zombie protection...
    If you tried to find some, probably yes. Zombie protection however is a must have.
    If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot... Forget youth, what we need is a fountain of smart. There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots.
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    With all the Zombie talk around here, I am suprised there is not a section of this forum dedicated just to preparation of the Zombie invasion...

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    Well we call it just being prepared.
    If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot... Forget youth, what we need is a fountain of smart. There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots.
    Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. --Isaac Asimov
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    Well we call it just being prepared.
    And you can talk jokingly about the zombie apocalypse and people will only.slightly look qt you funny it is the other shtf stuff where you start getting super weird looks
    You sir, are a specialist in the art of discovering a welcoming outcome of a particular situation....not a mechanic.

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