Quote Originally Posted by 7idl
learn to hit what you're aiming at. (practice practice)

you can always carry a spare mag if you feel you need more.

I understand that argument, but i'm afraid that somtimes you dont have that luxury, in a firefight when somone is shooting back at you, your not going to have all that time to aim, since the time you spend exposed aiming, is time you spend exposed risking getting shot.... I can imagine that aiming and shooting in a real fire fight would be much harder than just shooting at a paper target that isnt shooting back... thats why i want 9mm or 40S&W... wouldnt go 45, just dont like having 6 rounds lol. Anyways if i use good 9mm ammo or 40S&W it'll stop em dead in they're tracks as well... I'm thinking Hydrashock +P+ would do the trick real nice.

Thanks for all your input guys, hrmm so how do those guns compare in accuracy, because i know my the P228 shoots about 1-2" groupings at bout 40-50 yards, and thats with my bad shooting lol. I need more practice... my dad manages to get 1" and somtimes under 1" groupings with it.

Also size... i'm a relativly big guy.... i would rather have somting that fits well in my large hands, the really compact ones feel like toys, and are way to small for me. The 228 is about right, not to small not to big... i cant immagine having to shoot a lil XD hehe. Although i was thinking of a compact glock... not an ultra compact just regular, one thats about the same size as a 228...

What do you guys think of those two guns? Also the Khar, never heard of that... hrmm i'll have to look into it.