Obama birth certificate released

[Ranger]

It amazes me how polarized this birther thing is. For me, I figured he wouldn't have made it in the office without that being proven. However, I also have to question why it took over 2 years to produce this. I think something is being hidden but I don't know what and I suspect it might have to do with the fact that his father was listed as African, meaning there could be some question as to the absolute validity of if he is 100% qualified to be president. I figure this might be the case and the Obama team has been dotting their I's and crossing their T's to make sure that if this is challenged that they have a defense. Otherwise, I really don't doubt (very much) that he was born in the USA.

[ChunkyMonkey]

I am more worried about his loyalty -- knowing how he spent his youth time.

[Lex_Luthor]

I am more worried about his loyalty -- knowing how he spent his youth time.

+1 exactly. He's spent his time sympathizing with Muslims and apologizing for America being America. So if his loyalties lie elsewhere, and if there's a chance that his birth records are indeed fabricated, then WHAM! Kick him out with a steel toed boot.

[Zundfolge]

Here's the problem though ... because he stonewalled for so long and now has released an obviously doctored image there is just no way to prove or disprove where he was or was not born.

Unless you found unedited film of him being born on some dirt floored hut in Kenya there is just zero way to prove he WASN'T born in Hawaii ... and the burden of proof lies on the accusers here.

So to continue to hammer this issue publicly is a waste of time (which frankly is why I believe he stonewalled the release of his birth certificate from the get go).

As a technical discussion I enjoyed doing the forensic work on the file, but at this point I don't think it means much.


Now it does bother me that this discussion (and many others in the public discourse) has devolved into name calling ... there is just simply no reason why people that question where he was born should be compared to kooky conspiracy theorists or called racists, or otherwise called names, it is a LEGITIMATE question (just one that I don't think is ever going to be answered).

[UberTong]

I am more worried about his loyalty -- knowing how he spent his youth time.

Yup

[UberTong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WJlHfTEvlCY

[Ranger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WJlHfTEvlCY

That's what I mean. This is what is in dispute, but it would be tied up in court so long that BO would have run the course of his presidency by the time it was resolved. This reason is why I think he delayed releasing his birth certificate so long (you can't tell me that the POTUS has to wait 2+ years for Hawaii to give him permission to publish his own long form, that's total BS, I'm sure any Hawaiian resident could get this done in 6 weeks).

[Jer]

That's what I mean. This is what is in dispute, but it would be tied up in court so long that BO would have run the course of his presidency by the time it was resolved. This reason is why I think he delayed releasing his birth certificate so long (you can't tell me that the POTUS has to wait 2+ years for Hawaii to give him permission to publish his own long form, that's total BS, I'm sure any Hawaiian resident could get this done in 6 weeks).

I think it's more about setting a precedent at this point and ensuring this fella doesn't get a shot at a 2nd term where we would see untold damage done w/o the fear of blowing a future election looming over his head. Sure we may not have time to eliminate this tool shed from office before the term expires but 1) it will guarantee a viable Democratic candidate for office (No, I'm not a Dem but I am an American and that's a 2x better chance of getting someone in office who can write this ship) which will force the Republicans to present better candidates as well and 2) it will give us a set of procedures for the next time this situation presents itself that we can refer back to and handle it swiftly and before the damage is already done the way it has been this time.

[cebeu]

I'd be more interested in this thread if the topic title was; "Obama death certificate released"












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[TS12000]

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