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    Default Any Idea's how this blew in half?

    We were shooting trap yesterday at TSSC and about the 3rd round out of the box just exploded bowing my FIL's gun in half. It was a reload, the barrel was clear, nothing came out the front.

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    Wow. I'm glad I wasn't holding that.

    Barrel obstruction or possibly a double charge in the reload would be the likely culprit. Standard pressure trap load should never do that to a shotgun. Where did the base of the shell go?

    I don't know how but scary as hell. Hope he wasn't hurt.
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    Double charge.
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    Wow, that is scary. I sure hope no one was hurt
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    Default Chamber split

    barrel didn't. I'd point to metalurgy primarily. SOMETHING had to come out of the barrel.

    It's not hard to do a double charge in a reload, but it is pretty difficult. 17gr of powder is a significant bulk, then the wad then the shot. SHOULD have spilled some shot out, or been very very difficult to crimp. Wads don't compress well. But if doubled, the load itself would have been compressed tightly and given a greater pressure spike enough to damage a gun.

    But just looking at the chamber as the failure point, without barrel involvement from the photos shown, I'd say defective metalurgy. There is this gigantic hole that would have vented a double load (12ga) pretty effectively.

    I'm guessing this is one of those cheaper imported O/U's - you get what you pay for.

    Ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spleify View Post
    Wow, that is scary. I sure hope no one was hurt
    No one was hurt luckily, he was on the far right station when it went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldmaster View Post

    I'm guessing this is one of those cheaper imported O/U's - you get what you pay for.

    Ouch!
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    double charge almost certainly.

    or wrong powder.

    sorry, if it was a factory load I think we could blame metallurgy, but with a reload, it's probably at fault. (ocram's razor and all that)
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    Wow!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldmaster View Post
    barrel didn't. I'd point to metalurgy primarily. SOMETHING had to come out of the barrel.

    I'm guessing this is one of those cheaper imported O/U's - you get what you pay for.

    Ouch!

    That's a newer 900 series Webley & Scott. All those guns go through the Birmingham Proof house (although they may be manufactured elsewhere in Europe). The Receiver is also CNC machined from Chrome-Moly... Quality control is tight.

    Although not exactly a high-end gun, they are far from the bottom and would compare to the Beretta 682 for cost / quality.

    Which brings us back around to the ammo (double charge or wrong powder), or a barrel obstruction.
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